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It is missing important apps like CVS and SSH for instance, and I'm 
not a typical Linux user who can spend hours to find and download 
the GNU sources for an app, configure the build, and compile it.

 <--- don't know how Mandrake handles packages other than it's RPM, 
 but Debian handles these things in seconds with a single CLI command, 
 and it surely isn't necessary to hunt down sources manually. :-)

I always regarded Debian as a bit harder to start with but many times 
easier to maintain once it runs.

well Mandrake was the first distro that i ever got a install with 
out having a book in hand so am more than happy with it-so far :^)

I'm more of a Fedora person when it comes to easy distros

I set it up here under VMWare for basic use (not a *nix guy :-) and 
it worked; SUSE was also OK; but RedHat solved a couple issues the 
others had under VMWare, which is really just a versioning/support 
issue in that environment. I had to find an old RedHat at that.

just found out that mod_gzip, mod_gunzip, mod_bunzip2 (any of this) 
is not a default module with RHEL .


I would have thought that this will be a useful module for any server 
to have.

Just installed Ubuntu Linux for the first time. REBOL/View's font 
rendering is correct on it. I hope that will still be the case with 
the new version that will be released in a month

I'm sitting on a debian and Ubuntu box here. Fonts are a tad larger 
in Ubuntu than in debian. debian runs XFree86 and Ubuntu, I believe 
uses X.org.

I do get an error with Core where it stops responding after loading 
in a terminal. No prompt or error appears. This doesn't happen with 
View.

I installed Warty. Is the font size in /View a problem on Hoary?

ok, it's a bit funny, because some fonts are bigger, such as in the 
chat area, but headlines are smaller.

I'm a bit surprised at how far ahead Hoary is compared to debian 
unstable

my debian runs gnome 2.8.2 from experimental, but ubuntu runs 2.10 
and it's a lot more stable.

I had a number of problems with Warty, but it's just the first release, 
and it still compares favorably with the alternatives

hoary is pretty good. I had a single problem detecting two network 
cards in my laptop when I first tried it, but I got it running.

No, Warty doesn't have it yet. Yes, there are nice improvements in 
Hoary, but I couldn't use the preview yet. I did add a number of 
repositories and applications, so I got halfway towards Hoary after 
all

Maybe its related, on suse 9.0 i change in xf86config
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
to
  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:scaled"
Else /view finds only a few matching font-sizes.

Yes, that's a good one. An annoying thing, though, is that it doesn't 
seem capable of changing the refresh rate from a flicker

Ok, here is a thing I want to use /Core for, which IMO is useful 
to a lot of people: Locking out IPs after multiple failed sshd login 
attempts

I'm not a Linux guru. There are some solutions using a tool named 
SWATCH but it's not that easy.

So what's needed:

1. We need a way to continually parse the SSHD log-file, something 
like tial

2. We extract the IP address and add it to some firewall, to block 
it for some time
3. We need to remove the IP from the firewall

Anyone interested in such a project?

Yes, I read this. swatch is working but getting everything tied together 
is as always with Unix akward. I just want a simple Rebol solution 
:-))

iptables: Is this a tool that I need to start or is it a system tool 
to alter internal things uses by the kernel anway?

has a partner /etc/hosts.allow . IIRC .deny has priority.

What happens if the same IP tries again? The request is blocked immediatly? 
Why might using a firewall or iptables be better?

But, if filterting would work correct, it should be DROPed anyway. 
So, if I add a DROP rule for an IP address, I shouldn't get any more 
packets.

Robert, with IPTables the rules are parsed in order so if a rule 
will allow the packet before it gets to your deny rule then the packet 
is allowed. (IIUC)

there is a tailor.r in my folder on developer. it polls the tail 
of a file and calls a callback which each new line. uses /skip on 
file. may be a base for a daemon

Does anybody know hot to run rebol script as a background job?

I added forever loop at the tail of the script so it's working now 
(as a server) but rebol stops when I exit the shell:(

background jobs are normally stopped in the shell they are run from, 
if that shell exits. I'm not sure what it takes to make a program 
run as a background job, though...

I would like to start a server

have you tried using a shebang line at the top of the script and 
run the script directly as an executable script, rather than through 
the rebol executable?

http://www.jguru.com/faq/view.jsp?EID=472493<--- something about 
using SysV init here. putting the script in /etc/init.d would make 
it a daemon

had tested in an xterm. thought closing that acts like a logout.

with REBOL/Core 2.5.6.10.1 on solaris I just  use a trailing &

I start a job and than use disown -h

I would like to make a IRC client from it as I have in rebol/plugin: 
http://oldes.multimedia.cz/rss/builds/irc-plugin/

I would like to make a IRC client from it as I have in rebol/plugin:

kini is far from javaIRC client for example but It can be a good 
start

4th of July (a good time for me to do project work) but wanted to 
say thanks for the Statue of Liberty you gave us many years back.

we shoot fireworks for a day, rather than shooting each other.

Does anybody know (use!) Virtuozzo ?
It's a virtualisation server application.

I wonder if buying an hosting on this kind is a good solution to 
host Rebol CGI apps.

Josh is now in Bejing then to Yinchuan China, for 6 weeks on a mission 
trip, teaching English as second language, so I am without my best 
French interpreter.

I found a critical bug: when rebol is configured to work as cgi engine 
with SELinux (Security Enhanced Linux), it generates a Segmentation 
Fault. I uses Fedora Core 3 with SELinux to secure the httpd daemon. 
For now, if you want to use rebol as a cgi engine, you must disable 
SELinux. See RAMBO Ticket #-376

I'm currently trying to filter IP addresses that try to log into 
my SSH server. For this I use a tool "swatch" and "iptables" to filter 
them.

Can anyone give me a tip how to filter/drop IP addresses for a specific 
time-range if there are illegal login attempts? IMO this would be 
a really cool admin tool for Linux.

has anyone figured out how to run a script as a daemon that can be 
started at boot?

There seems to be a related discussion in this group around the 8-Jun-2005.

Dont know that eally well myself. what i firued out: usually (debian, 
suse) startup-scripts are in /etc/init.d. on debian there is a /etc/init.d/skeleton 
as base for own script. then there are the runlevels in /etc/rc?d/. 
links there go to /etc/init.d/ an tell the system what to start/stop. 
the numbers in the filenames are the priority, lowest run first. 
Usually there is a gui-tool like yast or ksysv which scans /etc/init.d/ 
for scripts and makes the appropriate links. tricky things are to 
write the startup-script, to figure out which runlevel to use and 
how the os figures out what to stop. although if you dont need that 
runlevel smartness, because you call it on boot and let it be killed 
by shutdown, you can just use a normal bash-script.

Is there any reason that this group is private and not published 
to the web?  I know that there is a lot of good information in this 
group and everyone should have access to it.

well in fact the problem is that rebol have been désigned more to 
be a cgi engine than  a real service / deamon capable  system. It 
depends too if  your REBOL application have been wrapped (REBOX,GREBOX, 
SDK/ENCAP,PAYLOAD) . With a wrapped version it's easier to run ...

I made for windows a Dyndns client in REBOL witch runs automatically 
on startup using register base  HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run. 
For linux /etc/rc*d files works like bash script.

Festival is a software made in Scheme ( a Lisp clone) that allow 
voice synthésis (debian pakage are available on bedian.org website 
and can be acceded using Synapse GUI debian DLand Install software).

To run my solution I simply make a bash that tests if festival is 
yet running or not and then runs it (I'm using 1.2.1 REbol version 
for linux ...) and then runs my GUI software ;)

I'm working on a text to speech processor that could use MBROLA  
as  engine ASCII TEXT would be converted to PHO mbrola phonetic describtion 
file. Of course using rebol/view  1.3
 :)

I think parse would do a trully great job for this  kind of rebol 
software

there is a stdc++ notice on the builds page. did you read it?

why v5 - usually its easier to add an old library which the distro 
once had than to install a new one which the distro not has yet.

Hi everyone,
I have a problem running the new view beta on suse 9.3.

I have libstdc++ 5, I can run rebol scripts (that need 1.3), but 
I can't start the desktop (I double-click the rebol icon, it just 
flashes -starts and stops immediatky-).
I'm new to Linux so this might be a known issue. 

I tried moving the VM to various places but same result at every 
try.
Maybe someone can help ?

Francois a very good linux distribution is ubuntu ;)

Jonathan, try to launch rebol from the console rather than by double-clicking 
on the icon. Also, make sure you launch rebol from a place you have 
write access. For example, i installed rebol within /opt/rebol-cmd/bin 
but I do not have write access on this folder. So, from my home folder, 
i launch rebol like this: /opt/rebol-cmd/bin/rebview

Shad, Ubuntu is debian based... So why have a copy when you can have 
the real thing ;-)

Francois not a copy a different package  ...

Any chance of a world master moving this group under the "Operating 
Systems" divider?

thanks a lot ...

about special settings (user.r) i would write a short script dumping 
system/options and system/script. running from cgi. That should show 
the pathes.

i guess user.r is at users home, not sure where that is with their 
cgi-settings. on a new rebol 
 >> get-env "HOME"
== "/home/volker"
works too.

where are sub-script? rebol makes a cd to the current script. So 
you can use relative addresses from there. just make a subdir %lib/ 
where the script is.

when i upload things, i use a builder-script which takes my local 
installation and replaces some things, like the shebang. then i copy 
that result to the server. you could make a config-script, 
 exe: %/usr/local/bin/rebol
 data: %/svr/www/my-dir/
  ..
let them adjust that and run the builder.

Also it makes sense to not hard-wire most pathes, but put them in 
a config too and load them at runtime. but does not work with the 
shebang, it must be hardcoded in the script.

thanks a lot! :-)

what is a good client for bittorrent? i want to help seeding a bit, 
but not to have lots of btdownloadcurses open.

cpu-cycles would be a problem here i guess. but will look, thanks.

but that was reported some xyz versions before. They do regular updates, 
it is really a nice app, having auto-updates for itself and its plug-ins, 
simply a joy to use - that is how apps should work - install just 
once and then have it up-to-date for ages ...

I tried playing the presentation on Mandrake and all I got was the 
vid/no sound ? Which player are you guys using that will play a mp4 
?

Some news: I'm currently finishing a new RSP API documentation, that 
will match the upcoming RSP version with brand new code for session 
support. In this next release, I'll focus on stability / reliability 
rather than providing new big features. I should be able to release 
it in a month from now with proper documentation.

but doc, I think many users would like  you to pass by a little more 
often... its just nice to know that an author is actively supporting 
his stuff...

Terry: REBOL already supports SSL, it just a matter of knowing which 
flag to set to switch to server-side SSL. Btw, if anyone can get 
the info from Carl, that would be great ! (Pekr, you're kind of good 
at extracting info from ppl ;-))

and put a few pints in the letter  ;-)

Pekr: There's a lot of competing templating solutions, and AFAIK, 
XML+XSL is the most used one. You can also look at Enhydra XMLC here 
: http://www.enhydra.org/tech/xmlc/index.html(It's done with JSP, 
but the concept can be easily ported to any other language).

the only thing it needs is someone to adapt it for cgi use... I have 
too little CGI practice and no real need, atm... so its hard to put 
time on this... but its a rebol script, so its easy to adapt.  all 
it would need is to check if its been started as cgi and call a different 
startup, which only prints out one file.  for static pages (which 
CAN include dynamic conent like sql queries) then its a very good 
solution which already supports site magamenent and ftp xfer.

I can send you a .zip though?  is your email address here valid?

I want to set up a cheyenne web server that is secure.. ie. protected 
by ssl.

can I use http://sourceforge.net/projects/sslexplorerto set up a 
ssl vpn so that the remote user logins via the vpn, and then accesses 
the intranet's web server?

btw remark is now online... wondering if everyone sees the announce 
group... sometimes I think only a minority actually see/read it.

that is probably true. however I may change the architecture a bit 
since the parser is limited to two levels and is not recursive. the 
pages are generated from a limited list. all I really wanted to do 
was to make it easy to combine blogger.r, makedoc documents, dir 
listings and customized html output in a pipeline. it does most of 
that now, but the parser is only about 80% elegant. :-)

easier to edit, since I don't have to track the damned end tag all 
the time... this being said, normal html is still valid within the 
files... so its a 1/2 way between html and rebol code.

i'd rather say apache is just a slave in this setup

it just acts as a signal converter

Ok here's a riddle..  When is a slave a master?

When he's a middle manager?

It's a command-line tool acting as a SSL daemon frontend for any 
server requiring SSL decryption.

I had a go .. but couldn't get it to work.

Didn't tried that, but there's a client mode in stunnel.

Ok. Definitely will try it .. why do they have a how to that's so 
difficult ??

They did a good job with stunnel's installer, fast and easy to use.

Anyway, I'm going to make a Mantis lightweight clone soon, when the 
new Cheyenne version will be ready.

That would make a good test application for the new RSP session engine.

I want to write a little application that manages hylafax incoming 
faxes

Specifications are written, I should be able to implement it this 
week. Then I'll need at least a week to test and tune.

noob question .. think i've asked it before .. where should one startup 
uniserve on a linux system?  (suse10) ?

Just wondering if Apache can be run as a service from YaST, what 
would it take to run Cheyenne like that?