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Oldes: 16-Jun-2008 | I'm not going to read such a file if I have only 1GB memory:) | |
[unknown: 5]: 16-Jun-2008 | Well I'm testing a new indexing system for TRETBASE and need to know some significant data to fine tune it. | |
[unknown: 5]: 16-Jun-2008 | when the port/state/tail value reaches 2 ** 31 it converts it to a negative number and gives an error which is an "access error writing to port". | |
[unknown: 5]: 16-Jun-2008 | REBOL should be able to break this limitation. Even if it means holding a pointer to a file position and then looping over again. | |
[unknown: 5]: 16-Jun-2008 | So next question - do we have any source of /seek to understand why we have such a limitation? | |
[unknown: 5]: 16-Jun-2008 | A work around? | |
[unknown: 5]: 16-Jun-2008 | ahhh time to eat - be back in a few. | |
[unknown: 5]: 16-Jun-2008 | Any ideas what the numbers mean in the port/state/misc section of a file port? | |
BrianH: 16-Jun-2008 | Nope. Anyone else want to give this a shot? | |
[unknown: 5]: 16-Jun-2008 | Would be nice to have the feature to access the currently indexed position of the open port and perform a function on it. For example, modify /awake to work with files. Such that any reference to the file or altering of the position can be handle via an awake/handler. | |
[unknown: 5]: 18-Jun-2008 | I have a handy little function I made and don't know if there is already an easy way to do this in REBOL but I have a function called 'any+ that simply keeps me from repeating any statements. For example: >> a: 3 == 3 >> if any+ [1 2 4 > a][print "cool"] cool Got a bit tired of writing ANY [1 > a 2 > a 4 > a] This is one of those things that I often wonder if we already can do this easlier and I just don't know what it is. | |
Gregg: 18-Jun-2008 | There isn't anything built in that does that. For simple min/max comparisons, you could do something like this: if a < first maximum-of [1 2 4] [print "cool"] I also have a shortcut for FIRST MAXIMUM-OF. pick-max: func [series [series!]] [attempt [pick maximum-of series 1]] if a < pick-max [1 2 4] [print "cool"] For the general case, I would use a map and anonymous func combo. R3 has a native MAP func, but you have to roll your own in R2. | |
Henrik: 18-Jun-2008 | I would want to put all values that are going to be tested in a block. | |
Henrik: 18-Jun-2008 | a < [1 2 3 4] | |
Henrik: 18-Jun-2008 | I remember from my HP48 calculator that any numbers put in a block, could be operated on like that. But I think this is the beginnings of vector operations, which is a big area that should be done right. | |
Henrik: 18-Jun-2008 | because I would also like to see: >> 1 + [2 3 4 5] == [3 4 5 6] in R3 there are ways to do this with a bit more code. | |
[unknown: 5]: 18-Jun-2008 | No outside of a single block though. | |
[unknown: 5]: 18-Jun-2008 | Shouldn't < > and = return as a logic values as well as being op values? | |
[unknown: 5]: 18-Jun-2008 | I guess because it doesn't return true or false until it operates on something it wont return a logic value. But maybe we should at least subclassify some operators to distingish them more. | |
[unknown: 5]: 18-Jun-2008 | lop? would be a function | |
[unknown: 5]: 18-Jun-2008 | could be modified to become a true mezz | |
[unknown: 5]: 18-Jun-2008 | ;a bit revised: lop?: func ['op][if all [op? get op find form op charset "<>="] [return true] false] | |
Gregg: 18-Jun-2008 | You can sort of trick your way around things with ops in most cases. e.g. >> fn: func ['op a b] [op: get op op a b] >> fn < 1 2 == true But I avoid doing that. It ends up not being worth it, IMO, when you start to reuse things, generate code, etc. Just use func alternatives. | |
Chris: 19-Jun-2008 | ; Here's a thought: any-where: func [series [block!] test [block!]][ foreach value series compose [if (test) [break/return value]] ] probe any-where [1 2 3 4][value > 4] probe any-where [1 2 3 4][value >= 4] probe any-where [1 2 3 4][value < 4] ; I know it's a two block solution, but it's pretty language friendly. You can recycle tests too: test: [value > 4] probe [1 2 3 4] :test probe [5 6 7 8] :test | |
Henrik: 21-Jun-2008 | simple problem: >> a: [1 2 3 4 5] == [1 2 3 4 5] >> b: at a 3 == [3 4 5] >> a == [1 2 3 4 5] >> b == [3 4 5] >> remove a == [2 3 4 5] >> b == [4 5] ; I wonder if it's possible to make the index "sticky" at [3 4 5] in a relatively simple way. If it were, that would be very cool. | |
Chris: 21-Jun-2008 | Unless this is a feature request, you'll need an alternative to remove... | |
Henrik: 21-Jun-2008 | half a feature request and half trying to find a quick way to solve it. seems there is not an easy way. | |
[unknown: 5]: 21-Jun-2008 | can you just get around the problem by setting a: next a ? | |
Dockimbel: 21-Jun-2008 | >> a: make list! [1 2 3 4 5] == make list! [1 2 3 4 5] >> b: at a 3 == make list! [3 4 5] >> a == make list! [1 2 3 4 5] >> b == make list! [3 4 5] >> remove a == make list! [2 3 4 5] >> b == make list! [3 4 5] | |
[unknown: 5]: 21-Jun-2008 | I that in the following the 10 represents 10 "bytes"? a: make string! 10 | |
[unknown: 5]: 21-Jun-2008 | So how to we define those things in a block? | |
[unknown: 5]: 21-Jun-2008 | I know we can initilize the block with for example: a: make block! 10 But how do we determine what is in the block comprises a byte? | |
[unknown: 5]: 21-Jun-2008 | I know that in a string each character represents a byte but even then how much overhead is allocated merely by a: make string! 0? | |
PeterWood: 22-Jun-2008 | There is a lot of information about Rebol's memory usage in the mailing list archive. You culd start here: http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-topic-index.r?i=memory | |
[unknown: 5]: 23-Jun-2008 | It appears to see a broken path and sees the rest of the path as an argument. Not sure where it is checking yet to get this information. | |
Chris: 28-Jun-2008 | Usage: assert-all [ a < 10 [print "a is more than 10"] a > 0 [print "a is less than 0"] ] It's the opposite of 'case really. If any of the cases are false, the related block is evaluated and the function returns none/false. If all cases are true, it returns the value of the last successful case. | |
Henrik: 28-Jun-2008 | I would like to see a good implementation of a function that performs a sequence of code blocks. If a code block is good, the next one is run. If the code block causes an error, a secondary code block that is either generic for all code blocks or specific to that particular code block is run. I'm thinking step-by-step code that either runs successfully or causes a generic or specific error. I don't know if it makes sense to do that, but I sometimes miss that if I need to do something with user friendly network connectivity. | |
Chris: 28-Jun-2008 | Paul: it's a common enough pattern, I'd like to find the most appropriate way to express it. Actually, that's the principle behind QM (which of course, this is intended for). The alternative case above would be: case [ not a < 10 [print "a is more than 10"] not result: a > 0 [print "a is less than 0"] ] result Requires a 'not statement for each test, requires an extra word to track the result and does not return a meaningful value. Consider this: if assert-all [ user/has-role? 'editor [make error! "You do not have required permission"] article: get-param 'article [redirect-to %/articles/create] 10'000 < length? article [make error! "Article is too long"] ][ save %article.txt article redirect-to %/articles/list ] | |
Chris: 28-Jun-2008 | Henrik, how does your scenario differ? Do you have a sample of your solution at work? | |
Henrik: 28-Jun-2008 | I had a function that does this a while ago, but I have to dig it up | |
Chris: 28-Jun-2008 | Graham, I'm still pondering naming. 'assert seems to evoke unit tests, that's not what this is. 'all-nots doesn't quite get the essence either. 'all-else is a possibility? Until then, I still lean toward 'assert-all. | |
Chris: 28-Jun-2008 | That is, I have a series of tests, each requiring a case for failure... | |
Henrik: 28-Jun-2008 | sorry, it does not work very well. I think I would build a new one from scratch if I needed it again. | |
Chris: 28-Jun-2008 | I get that -- a sign of personal progress, perhaps? | |
Henrik: 28-Jun-2008 | well, I tried a single line of code with it, and it didn't do what I wanted. I guess I could ask myself if I would write that kind of code today. :-) | |
[unknown: 5]: 28-Jun-2008 | Chris - 'case is native so even adding a 'not statement is going to be faster solution I think. | |
Graham: 28-Jun-2008 | If it's a time critical app like a web server I'd go for speed ... | |
Gregg: 30-Jun-2008 | Alan Dechert <[dechert-:-gmail-:-com]> asked the same thing on the ML earlier this month. Maybe the two of you can collaborate on a solution. If you could enhance SEND to allow it, maybe with a new refinement, we can try to get Carl to make it the standard. | |
Janeks: 2-Jul-2008 | What is the right way to check is port (ODBC, mySQL) open? Is it a-port/port-id ? | |
Gregg: 2-Jul-2008 | There's no official way. I think DocKimbel had a value in flags or state that he said worked. If he doesn't jump in, I'll dig for it. | |
Henrik: 7-Jul-2008 | has anyone worked on a method to convert a rebol block to a php array inside php? | |
Dockimbel: 8-Jul-2008 | For checking if a port! value is "opened", you can use this function : open?: func [port][zero? port/state/flags and 1024]. But that just checks for the "close" flag, it doesn't check the real TCP connection state. | |
TimW: 9-Jul-2008 | Is there a way to specify precision with rounding? My specific example has to do with money. Not only does it always chop it off to exact cents, but it rounds down. so .125 -> $0.12 This is horrible for accounting purposes. I just put everything in decimal and completely ignore the money! datatype, but this seems like a real shame. So is it possible to specify the decimal out to 4 or 5 places? | |
Sunanda: 9-Jul-2008 | Also, I am not seeing the always-down effect you report. round/to $.125 .001 == $0.13 ;; correctly rounded up Round did go through a couple of development stages. Perhaps your version of REBOL has an outdated one. This is the source from the version I am using: round: func [ {Returns the nearest integer. Halves round up (away from zero) by default .} [catch] n [number! money! time!] "The value to round" /even "Halves round toward even results" /down {Round toward zero, ignoring discarded digits. (truncate)} /half-down "Halves round toward zero" /floor "Round in negative direction" /ceiling "Round in positive direction" /half-ceiling "Halves round in positive direction" /to "Return the nearest multiple of the scale parameter" scale [number! money! time!] "Must be a non-zero value" /local m ][ throw-on-error [ scale: abs any [scale 1] any [number? n scale: make n scale] make scale either any [even half-ceiling] [ m: 0.5 * scale + n any [ all [ m = m: m - mod m scale even positive? m - n m - mod m scale + scale ] m ] ] [ any [ floor ceiling (ceiling: (found? half-down) xor negative? n down) n: add n scale * pick [-0.5 0.5] ceiling ] either ceiling [n + mod negate n scale] [n - mod n scale] ] ] ] | |
Henrik: 9-Jul-2008 | As a note: In R3, money! is of much greater precision (infinite?) and should round properly using conventional ROUND/TO (once bug #492 is fixed, that is :-)). | |
Chris: 13-Jul-2008 | Uck, this is unsightly: >> to-path [ [ a [ b [ c [ ] == a/ b/ c | |
Chris: 13-Jul-2008 | Why does it not result in: == a/b/c | |
[unknown: 5]: 13-Jul-2008 | The newline character is being detected so it is treating each as a separate statement. I would think that isn't a bug but rather a feature. | |
[unknown: 5]: 13-Jul-2008 | Since the following works fine: >> to-path [a b c] == a/b/c | |
Chris: 13-Jul-2008 | I think it's a bug in to-path. Why would you possibly want to retain that behaviour? | |
Chris: 13-Jul-2008 | I can understand silently storing newline settings between block sessions (I use 'new-line a little to control this behaviour), but what scenarios benefit from this when working with paths? | |
Gabriele: 14-Jul-2008 | chris, there is no purpose, it's just that internally path! = block!, so path! behaves exactly like block! does. it probably should strip newlines when converting though, or at least ignore them when molding... (that is, i'm saying this is a bug.) | |
Henrik: 14-Jul-2008 | perhaps it's a good idea to check on any char that does not belong in a path! R3 has a bug where it includes none! as part of a path. | |
[unknown: 5]: 14-Jul-2008 | Chris, you raised a good point when you said "Why would you possibly want to retain that behavior?". We wouldn't - add it to RAMBO please. | |
TimW: 17-Jul-2008 | sorry I didn't reply sooner. The version of round I was using was on a linux box so it was the latest debian rebol release. It does round up correctly on the windows version I have. | |
Henrik: 21-Jul-2008 | what I mean is that for single-standing tags, like <br>, XHTML 1.0 and upwards requires them to end with a slash. This creates a correct tag for this case: >> build-tag [input type checkbox value test /] == <input type="checkbox" value="test" /> But this is not correct: >> build-tag [input type checkbox value test checked /] == <input type="checkbox" value="test" checked="/"> | |
Henrik: 23-Jul-2008 | I'd say it's a bug | |
Graham: 23-Jul-2008 | a very old bug | |
Henrik: 23-Jul-2008 | I make a habit of testing R2 bugs in R3 as well. | |
Graham: 23-Jul-2008 | I'm trying to rename a few 100 directories to conform to a naming scheme | |
Sunanda: 23-Jul-2008 | I've been telling my clients for years not to install REBOL applications in folders that have a space in the name -- like "program files/rebol" It just creates too many problems. | |
[unknown: 5]: 23-Jul-2008 | If you want to the know the short format for a directory just use the dir/x command from the command prompt. | |
Chris: 23-Jul-2008 | All three of which are a pain. | |
Henrik: 23-Jul-2008 | there are also problems with using non-english characters at times. it backfires when you type a directory name in a macOSX script that makes a directory on a windows machine. results in chaos, because the dir name is read differently depending on the platform and whether you are reading it across the network. | |
[unknown: 5]: 23-Jul-2008 | Yeah Chris, I guess it depends on what your going. For example, if you collecting directory information and must parse thru it then the spaces are obviously a pain. | |
Sunanda: 23-Jul-2008 | It's been a longstanding problem, Tim. These two blog posts discuss it and a solution. I do not know if the solution has been implemented: http://www.rebol.com/article/0198.html | |
ICarii: 3-Aug-2008 | i have about 50,000 word strings in a single block. I would like to do a find/any wordsblock "sear?ch*" ;on it but no go - am i missing some fundamental feature of Core or is this broken? | |
ICarii: 3-Aug-2008 | example: a: ["one" "two" "once" "twice" "three" "thrice"] find/any a "on*" | |
ICarii: 3-Aug-2008 | lol deep in a 1 level block :P | |
Henrik: 3-Aug-2008 | I know :-) I guess you have to wonder what result you want back, because it has to search each string in the block. what you are looking for is a find on each string in the block and what if that is not found in the beginning? Does it return two indexes, one for the string and one for the block? That's where /deep comes in. | |
Henrik: 3-Aug-2008 | it helps if you are searching a hash | |
ICarii: 3-Aug-2008 | wildcard searching a hash is rather messy tho isnt it? | |
ICarii: 3-Aug-2008 | eg "?ex??w*a" | |
ICarii: 3-Aug-2008 | ive got some old code i did a few years ago in C# that uses regex to do it but I was just curious if rebol could do it in a timely manner | |
Graham: 2-Sep-2008 | Anyone consider this a bug? | |
Gregg: 2-Sep-2008 | That's caught me a couple times as well. | |
Brock: 3-Sep-2008 | Any way to get a copy of the R3 Alpha? I have a very simple script that has to deal with utf-8 text that this would really help with. | |
Pekr: 3-Sep-2008 | Can I have something like following? My friend asked me to do small "multiserver" in TCP mode, he is testing his HW device. IT works like a charm, but it is only console app (no GUI). Last week he asked me for another method of interruption of script - when he presses ESC (or closes console), the connection is RSTed, but he would like clean FIN, ACK. So - can I somehow trap keyboard press while in the wait loop? Or do I need to rewrite script to GUI version? I thought about adding console port to the wait block, but dunno if it would work :-) | |
Graham: 19-Sep-2008 | Read/custom allows you to send a custom header as in a cookie header like this read/custom url [post "postdata" [Cookie: "name=value"]] | |
Graham: 19-Sep-2008 | but it doesn't allow you to send a custom header except by using the post method. | |
Louis: 20-Sep-2008 | I'm having a strange problem. I'm trying to convert a file created with a Win XP program to work with a Linux program. Rebol seems to read past the end of the file into RAM. >>x: read %file1.txt >>print x AS: {5F65606E-93B2-4B16-BB24-ADC663FC8B5A}$[24;40Héx AS: is the last line in the file. I'm just showing a small amount of the following output. Note that the program seems to be unable to recognize the end of file marker. So, I did this: write %file2.txt read %file1.txt x: read %file2.txt print x But it didn't help. I got the same results. Any idea what is causing this? | |
amacleod: 20-Sep-2008 | Having a bock of blocks that I want to look more readable how do I get each block to start on a new line... I've tried to append 'newline to end of each block but it does not seem to work. Now I'm having a similar problem using Paul's tretbase. I've been using MySQL to store formatted text that when I load it I can run my parse function on. When I sttore the same text in tretbase and load it my parse function fails. When I probe the text from each tehy look different: MySQL preserves the carriage returns: [5 "FFP-LADDERS" "1-PORTABLE LADDERS" "2.1.2" { \table Straight Weight^-Ladders 20'^-55 lbs. 20'(Hook)^-60 lbs. 12'(Hook)^-35 lbs. /table } "" "2008-07-22 00:12:24"] Tretbase seems to store the carriage return's character code but displays 'flat': [5 "FFP-LADDERS" "1-PORTABLE LADDERS" "2.1.2" { \table Straight Weight^-Ladders 20'^-55 lbs. 20'(Hook)^-60 lbs. 12'(Hook)^-35 lbs. /table } "" 20-Sep-2008/3:07:19-4:00] What Might I be doing wrong? | |
Henrik: 21-Sep-2008 | Graham, did you study my wiki-tools for Mediawiki? They have been available for over a year. | |
Henrik: 21-Sep-2008 | so it should be possible to create a local editor to edit mediawiki pages, or to upload series of pages generated locally. | |
Graham: 22-Sep-2008 | Looks like I need to do a HTTP PUT to upload binary files .... | |
Graham: 22-Sep-2008 | So, I guess I need a way to add the PUT method, and then switch the IO from lines mode to binary and then back again. | |
Graham: 22-Sep-2008 | apart from it not working ... anyone see a problem with this? either all [block? port/state/custom post-data: find port/state/custom 'post post-data/2] [ http-command: "POST" HTTP-Get-Header: make HTTP-Get-Header append [ Referer: either find port/url #"?" [head clear find copy port/url #"?"] [port/url] Content-Type: "application/x-www-form-urlencoded" Content-Length: length? post-data/2 ] either block? post-data/3 [post-data/3] [[]] post-data: post-data/2 ][ either all [block? port/state/custom post-data: find port/state/custom 'get post-data/2] [ http-command: "GET" HTTP-Get-Header: make HTTP-Get-Header append [ Referer: either find port/url #"?" [head clear find copy port/url #"?"] [port/url] ] either block? post-data/3 [post-data/3] [[]] post-data: none ][ if all [block? port/state/custom post-data: find port/state/custom 'put post-data/2] [ http-command: "PUT" data: system/words/read/binary post-data/2 HTTP-Get-Header: make HTTP-Get-Header append [ Content-Type: "application/octet-stream" Content-Length: length? data ] either block? post-data/3 [post-data/3] [[]] ] post-data: post-data/2 ] ] | |
Graham: 22-Sep-2008 | read/custom URL compose/deep [ PUT %file.png [ Cookie: (cookie) ]] will use the http put method to upload a binary file and sets the cookie | |
Graham: 22-Sep-2008 | So, this will work with large files, it should be changed so that it does a skip/binary and inserts the file in chunks. | |
Graham: 22-Sep-2008 | Wouldn't it be better if we had access to the data sent to us without doing an 'open instead of a 'read ? |
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