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MaxV: 25-Jan-2013 | Hello, now http://rebol.informe.com/portal.htmlworks weel, I''m including all Rebol wiki around the web in it. So with just one account, you can: - improve wiki -discuss of rebol on forum - upload images on Gallery -... and much more Take a look and try... | |
Robert: 27-Jan-2013 | New Android release: URL : http://development.saphirion.com/experimental/ Direct URL : http://development.saphirion.com/experimental/r3-droid.apk Changes: -added DH and AES 128/256 encryption -rewritten console syncing code -TLS scheme improvements -fixed runtime stack size issue -fixed FP math using dtoa() (thanks to Ladislav!) -fixed shared lib unloading issue -fixed "exit on script error" bug -minor app handling tweaks Please give it a try and have fun. | |
MaxV: 30-Jan-2013 | Hello, now on http://rebol.informe.comthere is a wiki containing Rebol 2 and Rebol 3 (GitHub) wikis. You are welcome to contribute! If you are curious on in the forum you'll find the scripts to upload automatically all words descriptions in a wiki. | |
Kaj: 30-Jan-2013 | I wrote a simple text editor in the Red GUI dialect: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-GTK/dir?ci=tip&name=examples | |
Kaj: 30-Jan-2013 | In the line field, you can enter either a local file name or a URL, so the editor can be used both on local files and files on remote servers | |
Kaj: 31-Jan-2013 | I extended the Red text editor to support a program argument, for loading a text source from the command line: | |
Kaj: 1-Feb-2013 | With Doc's latest Red fixes, I was able to write a very simple IDE in the GUI dialect: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-GTK/dir?ci=tip&name=examples You can write either regular Red code or GUI dialect code, and execute it with respectively the Do or View button. Do executes the code in the interpreter, so no compilation is needed, but the current limitations of the interpreter apply. The code is only 25 lines, but at Brian's request, I'll post that in the #Red channel. | |
Kaj: 1-Feb-2013 | It's best to start it from a command line to get any diagnostic output | |
NickA: 5-Feb-2013 | That's helpful - it took me a little looking to find and download all the libs. I doubt there are too many people outside our small group who would put in the effort. | |
Kaj: 6-Feb-2013 | I wrote a Red binding on top of the Red/System binding for 0MQ: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-ZeroMQ-binding/dir?ci=tip I also wrote Red versions of the client/server request/reply example: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-ZeroMQ-binding/dir?ci=tip&name=examples | |
Kaj: 7-Feb-2013 | I added the new Red examples for 0MQ to the test repository with ready builds, so you can try them without compiling: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-test/dir?ci=tip I enhanced the Red versions with support for a program parameter giving the network URL, so you can adapt it to your environment and try different transport protocols. | |
Kaj: 8-Feb-2013 | I implemented the 0MQ ventilator example for Red, in which the push/pull pattern is used to distribute tasks over an arbitrary number of worker processes, then afterwards collect the results by a sink process: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-ZeroMQ-binding/dir?ci=tip&name=examples | |
MaxV: 13-Feb-2013 | Rebol3 is dead, long live to Rebol3Bazaar I've been quiet for a long while, and this blog is not easy for me to write. I'm sitting here with a glass of 2013 Ferrarelle mineral water of the glass bottle... hoping to be inspired on how to write this... No, bad introduction... You know that Rebol is a fantastic programming language, but its development was discontinued and bad supported. A lot of people when encounter Rebol falls in love for its simplicity, a blend of theory, experimentation, and invention, the language embodies elegant and wonderful concepts and properties. It was and is the most productive language I've ever used. I hope your experience has been similar. Unfortunately a lot of bad events are leading Rebol to a no through road: - no direction of the new Rebol3 - no a central site open for discussion - no updates on Rebol 3 source (well, just one every month) - to many sites about Rebol and with no updates from years These and other reasons forced me to create http://rebol.informe.com/portal.html a public forum, with a public wiki and a blog, where everybody can contribute. The result is just 17 users, this means that Rebol is dying; the cathedral way of Rebol 3 development is not working. So I'm forced by my love for Rebol to create a new GitHub repository: Rebol 3 Bazaar, it's a Rebol 3 source, with graphic working (VID, but just on windows at the moment); I promise you: - pull requests and issues discussed and merged in 24 hours (or max a week) - open to add people to its organiziation - always update! - link: https://github.com/angerangel/r3bazaar If you like to contribute write me, use GitHub or Rebol portal; you don't need to be a programmer, think about a new logo, contribute the wiki. If you know REBOLers who might be interested in this discussion, please let them know about this blog posting. I look forward to hearing from you, -Max | |
Kaj: 17-Feb-2013 | I wrote an example of a browser for Internet sites written in Red. The source code is here: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-GTK/doc/trunk/examples/GTK-browser.red The usage model is like a web browser. You point it to network or local file links, in an address bar or as a command line parameter, and it displays them in the same content area in one window. A Red page can contain links that make the browser go to another page. You can create and roll out Red sites just like websites. We are hosting the first Redsite here: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/index.red | |
Kaj: 18-Feb-2013 | I upgraded the Fossil server for the Red bindings to the new version 1.25. There are some nice new features in it: http://www.fossil-scm.org/download.html They also have a new short introduction guide: http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/trunk/www/fiveminutes.wiki | |
Kaj: 21-Feb-2013 | It turns out that the C library on Windows converts Windows newlines in text files to standard Unix newlines, so when reading a file, it can return fewer bytes than requested. I have extended the Red/System read-file function in the C library binding to support this: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-C-library/dir?ci=tip This fix propagates to READ in common/input-output, console-pro, GTK-text-editor and GTK-browser. They can now load local text files with Windows newlines, including those that were originally in Unix format but converted when downloading. Thanks to Doc for helping test, and to Gerard and Sqlab for additional reports. | |
Robert: 23-Feb-2013 | New Android release: URL : http://development.saphirion.com/experimental/ Direct URL : http://development.saphirion.com/experimental/r3-droid.apk Changes: -fixed console output crashes -implemented CLIPBOARD:// device -implemented BROWSE -added circular buffer to console -release has now correct platform, version, product and build information -fixed console input hang-on-destroy bug Please give it a try and have fun. This release is a milestone since now Rebol CORE is fully done for Android. We will now start to get the VIEW (graphics) to Android. As soon as we have this, R3-GUI should almost work on Android too. | |
Robert: 23-Feb-2013 | Again, I want to thank everyone who is supporting the Android port. A special thanks goes to NickA for his great support. | |
NickA: 23-Feb-2013 | This is a fantastic thing Robert :) | |
AdrianS: 23-Feb-2013 | Great news, Robert! Can hardly wait for the UI part. Will you be putting any of this stuff in a public repo any time soon? | |
Kaj: 25-Feb-2013 | I moved the SDL binding for Red/System into a CONTEXT: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-SDL/dir?ci=tip If you have written any code on top of it, you need to adapt the interface. | |
Bo: 26-Feb-2013 | In Carl's defense, just because someone is a genius with code architecture and development doesn't mean they are perfect in other areas, like finding time to work on free projects. As an example, look at Albert Einstein. An absolute genius in many things, but absolutely horrible in others. I guess it's a trade-off. If you're going to be really good at something, you have to be really bad at something else, or at least below average in a bunch of things. I guess that's better than being average at everything. | |
Bo: 26-Feb-2013 | I must be pretty good at something, because I can think of a lot of things where I am below average, and some I'm WAY below average. ;-) | |
NickA: 1-Mar-2013 | There are a bunch of 5-10 liners in there that should appeal to just about anyone. | |
NickA: 1-Mar-2013 | I'm pitching the much bigger text at http://business-programming.com to some colleges, as a business school (entrepreneur) course. | |
BrianH: 1-Mar-2013 | The R2/Forward project has been moved to Github, including an import of the DevBase change history by Andreas. Go here: https://github.com/BrianHawley/r2-forward No issues or wiki yet, and it needs a lot of work. Still, it's a start! Discuss stuff in !REBOL2 here until we have something better. I have some improvements to make right away, not the least of which is making sure that the license is compatible with R3 and Red. | |
Kaj: 1-Mar-2013 | At a request, I upgraded R3 on Try REBOL from 2.99.111, the last official RT version, to Andreas' current build, the ongoing 2.101 series. Not many changes, but some bug fixes. http://tryrebol.esperconsultancy.nl Graham programmed a nice bot for Stack Overflow chat that is able to call the Try REBOL web service to execute code examples and post the result. | |
AdrianS: 1-Mar-2013 | Yes it is nice, and you're avoiding trying it out. I thought you were going to drop by the SO chat at some point. Or have you been in there under a different name? | |
Janko: 3-Mar-2013 | PBKDF2 in R2 -- please check if I did anything stoopid ... I needed this function for AGES at the end it was very simple to implement (when I found a nice implementation to copy) https://github.com/refaktor/Rebol2-PBKDF2 | |
Bo: 3-Mar-2013 | Just in case nobody saw, Carl wrote in R3 github the following: Been busy. Will check-in more frequently in March. Sorry folks, Dec-Feb is the "crazy crazy busy" time for new product development. Yes, I know, I'm bad. But, I'm quite addicted to making new products... especially cute little electronic ones that sell in all the major stores in the US. Each one presents special new challenges that I just can't resist. Starting in March I'll break away for a few hours a week to take care of things here. Also... I really want to try using R3 with graphics running on DirectFB. It would be quite cool. One other thing... has anyone got R3 running graphics on Raspberry Pi yet? If not, let's talk about how we can make that happen. What do we need? | |
Gregg: 9-Mar-2013 | I missed making a donation to Red last month, so I will make up for it by doing a matching challenge this month. I will match donations to Red, up to USD$200, for donations made between now and the end of the month. | |
Kaj: 9-Mar-2013 | The audio example is now forced to open a small borderless window on Windows. It shouldn't be visible, but there will be an icon on the task bar now, and it will probably appear in the window switcher | |
Kaj: 9-Mar-2013 | Then again, maybe not with the MSDOS version, that is compiled to not be a GUI program | |
Kaj: 11-Mar-2013 | I've updated the Red test binaries with the latest Red features, including the new support for the file! type: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-test/dir?ci=tip As a reminder, here are instructions for downloading them in one go: http://web.syllable.org/news/2012-11-18-20-47-Red-high-level-programming-language-first-alpha.html All programs for Syllable, Linux and Windows are supposed to work now. If you want to help improve the quality of the upcoming Red release, please test them and report bugs you find. | |
Kaj: 11-Mar-2013 | I updated our Redsite for the latest Red features, specifically runtime function creation in the interpreter (which executes the Redpages): http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/index.red I added a simple IDE example to the list of apps: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/examples/IDE.red It's a cross between the standalone GTK-IDE example and Try REBOL; basically Try Red written in Red itself. There are two main areas: one for editing your code and one for showing the result. Since it runs on your computer, unlike Try REBOL, it keeps state between execution of code snippets. To browse the site and the apps you need the latest binary version of the GTK-browser. See above. | |
Andreas: 13-Mar-2013 | Thanks to a build machine provided by HostileFork, OSX PPC ("2.4") builds of R3 (from mainline Git) are now available for your convenience: http://www.rebolsource.net/ (Look for "OSX PPC" under the "experimental builds" section.) | |
MaxV: 14-Mar-2013 | On that page there is a broken link: the small "2" note. | |
MaxV: 14-Mar-2013 | Sorry, I just noted where it point, I thought a broken link since page remained still. | |
GrahamC: 14-Mar-2013 | I have a very early sl4a protocol at https://github.com/gchiu/Rebol3/blob/master/protocols/prot-sl4a.r3 Needs altjson loaded first. Not sure why I have to do the wait in the write actor. Steve? | |
Kaj: 23-Mar-2013 | I've added a Red interpreter to the Try REBOL site: http://tryrebol.esperconsultancy.nl Also reorganised many outdated REBOL links. The Red functionality is also available on StackOverflow through Graham's bot. | |
Kaj: 24-Mar-2013 | Some people have wanted to do timing with Red. That was already possible with wall clock time, but I've added a new function get-process-seconds to both Red and Red/System to get the CPU time used by the process. Be aware that on Windows, this still uses wall clock time: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-C-library/dir?ci=tip I've included examples in the Red Fibonacci examples. | |
GrahamC: 26-Mar-2013 | I have written a primer on how to wriite a network scheme in Rebol 3 .. http://www.r3gui.com/Writing_a_Network_Scheme.html Let me know if you spot any errors so that I may correct them | |
Ladislav: 30-Mar-2013 | I accepted the first batch of pull requests to "community r3" at https://github.com/rebolsource/r3.The purpose of the fork is to accept new requests when there is a consensus they shall be accepted to inform Carl that such a consensus exists. | |
Kaj: 3-Apr-2013 | To support the OpenCV binding, I've split the C library binding for Red into an ANSI standard base and a BSD extensions part: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-C-library/dir?ci=tip Instead of %C-library/C-library.red and %C-library/C-library.reds you should now #include %C-library/ANSI.red and %C-library/ANSI.reds. %C-library/BSD.reds includes %C-library/ANSI.reds automatically and provides new functions NaN?, finite?, infinite? and infinity-sign-of. It can only be used on platforms that have them. | |
Kaj: 5-Apr-2013 | The ReadLine library is available for Android, but hard to install, so I made an attempt to build a red console for Android that doesn't use it. I have no idea if it works, so I would really like someone to test it: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-test/doc/trunk/Android/Red/red-core There may also be issues with the paths to the cURL and SQLite libraries. They should be included in Android, but if the paths are different, I would like to know that, too. Remember Doc's blog about how to start Red executables on Android: http://www.red-lang.org/2011/12/arm-support-released.html | |
Kaj: 10-Apr-2013 | I've temporarily rerouted our most important domains to our current IP address, so they work again, but they will break again when our network provider changes the address back. Try REBOL works again, but it being half down allowed Graham and Andreas to find a bug in R3's HTTP handler. :-) | |
MaxV: 22-Apr-2013 | Hello, I started a wiki about only the Rebol 3 source: https://github.com/angerangel/r3bazaar/wiki/Source-explained , may you help me? ;-) | |
Bo: 25-Apr-2013 | Carl has mentioned that he is willing to discuss handing over control of the Rebol websites, likely to a Rebol community working group. AdrianS (I believe) requested this, and I passed it on to Carl. Just FYI. | |
Kaj: 27-Apr-2013 | I implemented UTF-8 output support for Red. I ended up writing optimised versions based more on the Red print backend. I integrated them in my I/O routines and made heavy performance optimisations. Thanks to Peter for leading the way. There are the following Red/System encoders embedded in %common.red: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-common/dir?ci=tip to-UTF8: encodes a Red string into UTF-8 Red/System c-string! format. to-local-file: encodes a Red string into Latin-1 Red/System c-string! format on Windows, and into UTF-8 on other systems. This yields a string suitable for the local file name APIs. Latin-1 can be output as long as it was input into Red via UTF-8. Non-Latin-1 code points cannot be encoded in Latin-1 and yield a NULL for the entire result. These encoders make use of the Latin1-to-UTF8, UCS2-to-UTF8 and UCS4-to-UTF8 encoding functions. An example of their use in the Red READ and WRITE functions is in %input-output.red | |
GrahamC: 11-May-2013 | Following in the footsteps of Red ( https://trello.com/board/red-programming-language/51387ada4e1ba9b86b001141 ) we have also started a Trello page for R3 ( https://trello.com/board/main-board/518dd9128fbdf0fc6a0004cf ) to track who is doing what ... Feel free to join Trello and let any of the current members know if you wish to be added to the project | |
Kaj: 12-May-2013 | You can now write REBOL 3 extensions in Red. I've added a Red example to the existing Red/System example: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-REBOL-3/dir?ci=tip&name=examples This currently still requires the dyn-lib-emitter branch of Red. | |
Kaj: 12-May-2013 | Here's an example of a session: r3 >> import %hello-REBOL-3-extension.dll >> hello Hello Red REBOL extension! | |
Kaj: 13-May-2013 | Here's a complete JNI binding from Red/System to Java: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-Java/dir?ci=tip | |
Kaj: 15-May-2013 | I finally got my OpenGL binding for Red/System in a form suitable for publishing: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-OpenGL/dir?ci=tip Currently, the only available backend is for PicoGL, which does software rendering with the TinyGL library and shows it through SDL. | |
Kaj: 15-May-2013 | PicoGL is included in Syllable Desktop, but there's a symbol loading issue that currently prevents the Red/System programs from loading the PicoGL library there | |
Kaj: 19-May-2013 | Not sure if this is useful for Android, but the JVM JNI interface can be loaded as a library from a normal executable: http://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/jni/spec/invocation.html I've added a static JVM binding to my JNI binding for Red/System, so Java can be loaded and controlled from regular Red executables: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-Java/dir?ci=tip | |
Kaj: 21-May-2013 | I made an OS-Mesa backend on SDL for my Red/System OpenGL binding: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-OpenGL/dir?ci=tip This does off-screen rendering in a memory buffer using the Mesa3D engine and then displays the result using SDL. Somehow I can't get it to work on Linux, but it's the first time I can use Red/System for OpenGL on Syllable. It circumvents two problems: the PicoGL library expects application functions that Red doesn't export, and Syllable's SDL port doesn't support the official OpenGL backend, so those routes both don't work. For most other targets than Syllable, the official SDL backend can be used. It's also the first time that I have used my Mesa3D port to Syllable. I couldn't display the output before, because there is no display driver for the current Mesa3D versions for Syllable, just the standard off-screen rendering. It works great, even though it does only software rendering. PicoGL is a bit faster, but Mesa3D is a much more modern and complete OpenGL implementation. | |
Kaj: 23-May-2013 | I added a similar workaround for ELF libraries as in Doc's JNI bridge to my R3 and JNI bindings: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-REBOL-3/dir?ci=tip http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-Java/dir?ci=tip R3 extensions written in Red/System and Red now work on ELF platforms such as Syllable and Linux. Should work on Android, too, at least when Doc has tested libraries there. | |
Robert: 24-May-2013 | The first thing we start with will be a bunch of documentation files. All written in MDP format. These are the files, from which the documentations on our web-site are dynamically generated from. | |
Ladislav: 26-May-2013 | Another "batch" of doc files committed. See e.g.: https://github.com/saphirion/documentation/blob/master/r3/whatsnew.mdp , which tries to compare R2 and R3, which was a popular request. | |
Kaj: 27-May-2013 | I dropped the cURL dependency from my red-base distribution. This means that it now only depends on a few libraries that can be expected to be included in all platforms. This version of the Red interpreter can now be used on Windows as a single executable, without any extra libraries. The Windows version red-base.exe is here: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-test/dir?ci=tip&name=MSDOS/Red It has versions of READ and WRITE for local file I/O, but no network I/O. It also has the other functionality from the C library, such as INPUT, ASK, GET-ENV, CALL, NOW and RANDOM, but for more functionality you still have to use red-core and red, and download the extra libraries for Windows. | |
Robert: 31-May-2013 | I'm happy to announce that we reached a major milestone and can release a bunch of new things. All the different versions have been merged into one code base which makes things easier for us. This was possible because the new 'retargetable' graphics subsystem was finished. This allows us to port R3 to other platforms much easier. Next target Linux. The release in detail: R3-GUI: Quite a lot of fixes and enhancements. Thanks for all the feedback. The main milestone we achieved was to switch to a resolution independent sizing system. This will scale your app widgets to look the same on different display densities. It's a must have for mobile apps. Next for R3-GUI is to create a simple mobile style set. Fruther, we are going to push the source code to GitHub. We need to setup a bridge to our internal SVN repository, so expect some back and forth on Github before we are stable. Anway feel free to help making R3-GUI better and better. Android: This release is now mostly the same as the windows release. So, yes, it's now possible to do R3-GUI apps on Android. I'm going to try to run Treemapper on it. Type DEMO to see the new R3-GUI version and widget scaling feature. Post as much screenshots / pictures of your phone as you can :-) R3/Saphir: New version for windows with bug-fixes are released as well. Please see the change-log on our web-site for details. Thanks to all the team for the great work! I really think we are close to have a very good and stable base with R3 and R3-GUI. Looking forward to see more and more people joining and becoming part of it. Links: http://development.saphirion.com (Change Logs, Downloads, etc.) http://development.saphirion.com/experimental (Android) https://github.com/organizations/saphirion (Documentations) | |
Arnold: 7-Jun-2013 | I set up a Youtube account under the name of REBOL Coder using the gmail account [RedREBOLs-:-gmail-:-com]. I added a small number of youtube Red presentations. http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4UikCida6olTyowsi5JyyA As it is an extra channel I think about sharing this account with interested from the community. | |
NickA: 10-Jun-2013 | Robert, thank you for the improvements and progress with Android (sorry, I've been away from AltMe for a while) | |
Gerard: 11-Jun-2013 | What a bad choice of color for your name - I just can't read it ... is it from Aries ? | |
Robert: 12-Jun-2013 | I'm happy to announce that we made good progress regarding the Android R3 encapper. A major breakthru in the multiple-app generation has been made (thanks to Andreas for ELF format hints). Now it is possible to create encapped apps with unique app-id. Such apps can be recognized properly by the Android OS and also accepted on the Google Play market. The cool thing with this approach is one really don't need anything more than the Android encapper to produce the apk file. No need for android NDK, SDK or even JAVA to be installed ;-) There are some glitches we are going to fix and than the encapper is ready for production. | |
Andreas: 18-Jun-2013 | I wrote a quick & minimal example illustrating how to use R3-GUI together with R3's async HTTP: https://gist.github.com/earl/447e4e9510a68c308f6b | |
Kaj: 19-Jun-2013 | I changed the Red 0MQ interface to optimise the memory use during receiving of messages: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-ZeroMQ-binding/info/2a1541af57 SEND and RECEIVE have been renamed to send-string and receive-string, because they currently handle messages as UTF-8 text. When Red gets a binary! type, versions for binary messages will be added, and there will probably be type agnostic SEND and RECEIVE wrappers again. Previously, you used message: receive socket to receive a string message. Now you pass a premade string! (similar to call/output in R2): message: "" receive-string socket message This means that you can choose between creating new strings for each message (with COPY) or reusing the same string. In the latter case, some Red/System code in receive-string makes sure that no extra Red memory is used, and that all used system and 0MQ memory is freed again. By optimising memory use, this also improves performance of message throughput. | |
Kaj: 19-Jun-2013 | This work will be paid for by Respectech as part of an assignment I'm doing for them. As far as we know, this is the first commercial assignment done with Red. I'm implementing a network server that needs to run for long periods and handle relatively large numbers of requests. This is tricky because Red has no garbage collector yet, and the memory allocator doesn't handle large series yet. We have been testing the memory system to scale it, and Doc has fixed an allocator bug so that series can now be twice as large. I've also found and reported seven other bugs so far. The results are very encouraging. The memory system is reliable in my stress testing. It can use all the memory available in a machine for the contents of series. In the default configuration, one series can have a maximum content of 2 MB, or 131070 values for a block!. This can be enlarged, basically at will, by compiling your program with customised allocator settings. To reduce the amount of memory that currently cannot be reclaimed by garbage collection, I am reducing the number of series generated during the handling of each server request. This can be done within the same Red program, because low level optimised Red/System code can be inserted anywhere. I am down to only a few hundred bytes per handled request, and the memory budget of the server is a GB, so the Red 0MQ server will be able to handle several million requests. | |
Kaj: 20-Jun-2013 | For relevant platforms, I added extra versions of my Red interpreter console distributions to my downloads: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-test/dir?ci=tip They provide versions that include my 0MQ binding for messaging. Previous interpreter distributions didn't include it, because on most platforms, you have to install the 0MQ library as an extra. Further, people may need 0MQ with the GTK+ GUI binding, or without it on servers and embedded systems. So there are two new distributions in each platform folder: */Red/red-core-message */Red/red-message red-core-message is meant for servers and includes bindings for the C library, cURL, SQLite and 0MQ. In addition, red-message also includes the GTK binding and is meant for GUI programs. For Windows, most of these interpreters are in the MSDOS/Red/ folder, but I also added a version that is meant to start scripts for GUI programs, so it doesn't open an extra console window: Windows/Red/red-message.exe | |
Kaj: 20-Jun-2013 | As an example, the interpreter to run messaging scripts on a Raspberry Pi without GUI is here: Linux-ARM/Red/red-core-message The interpreter to develop GUI scripts on x86 Linux to communicate with a Raspberry Pi is here: Linux/Red/red-message A similar interpreter to develop GUI scripts on Windows to communicate with a Raspberry Pi is here: MSDOS/Red/red-message.exe As always, for Windows you also have to download the libraries that are included in the repository, according to the instructions here: http://web.syllable.org/news/2012-11-18-20-47-Red-high-level-programming-language-first-alpha.html | |
AdrianS: 21-Jun-2013 | Ladislav, couldn't you convert the docs to markdown into a file called readme.md so that they are visible by default? | |
Arnold: 3-Jul-2013 | Added 2 more video's to the RedRebols channel http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4UikCida6olTyowsi5JyyA I forgot to tell about not requiring a specific return, not needed to declare types and use of normal naming is encouraged and the automatic casting of the return value. Need to make a [3.5] too someday.. | |
Arnold: 4-Jul-2013 | Video number 5 posted. This one uses routine to call a Red/System function from a Red script. | |
Kaj: 7-Jul-2013 | I'm happy to announce that Doc and I got the first Red/System kernel driver working, for Windows. This is Doc's second kernel driver, and my first, and also my first real Windows program, so it took a few weeks to figure it out. This new ability of Red is sponsored by Respectech. Our test driver just loads and prints a Hello World style message that a kernel debugger can view, but I will be developing the driver into the functionality we need for our Respectech project. I will post the code of the test driver in the Red group. | |
Kaj: 7-Jul-2013 | This replaces the Windows Driver Development Kit (WDK) that you normally have to install on Windows to compile drivers. The WDK is a full CD download, 650MB. You don't need the WDK, but currently, you do still need to run the Red/System compiler on Windows (or WINE on Linux) to compile Windows drivers. This limitation will be removed later, so you will be able to cross-compile Windows drivers from all other Red platforms, like you can with other Red programs. | |
Kaj: 7-Jul-2013 | You should be able to compile the test driver with the latest Red/System development version, following the normal build procedure but adding the following parameter to the Red/System compiler command line: rsc.r -t WinDRV driver.reds This effectively replaces a makefile build script that the WDK uses that is almost 12,000 lines. By the way, the WDK is unable to work in a path that contains spaces, so for example on older Windows versions such as XP, you can't develop drivers in your home directory, because your home path always contains spaces. I think Red will now allow you to do that. | |
Kaj: 7-Jul-2013 | You will get a driver.sys file that you can install, start, query and remove like this, from a Windows account with administrative rights: sc create hello-Red type= kernel binPath= C:\full\path\to\driver.sys sc qc hello-Red sc start hello-Red sc query hello-Red sc delete hello-Red | |
Kaj: 7-Jul-2013 | To view the debug message generated by sc start, you need to install a (kernel) debug tool such as DebugView, and enable kernel debugging in the Windows boot options. Other than that, you should see sc query showing the driver as running. | |
Kaj: 10-Jul-2013 | Red has a new platform, Android for x86 processors, so I added it to the downloads of example programs: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-test/dir?ci=tip The Android programs for both ARM and x86 include the recent fixes to the Red Android port, so they have a better chance of working now. I would still like someone to test them. All example programs for other platforms have also been rebuilt with the latest Red enhancements and fixes. | |
Kaj: 10-Jul-2013 | Now that generation of shared libraries and drivers is available in Red's mainline, I have extended my build script to build libraries and drivers. I have added examples of a Windows kernel driver and libraries for R3 extensions in both Red/System and Red to the downloads repository mentioned above. The R3 extensions are available for all platforms to test, but the Windows kernel driver is here, as hello-kernel-driver.sys: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-test/dir?ci=tip&name=MSDOS/RedSystem See above how to start the driver. Instructions for using the R3 extensions are in the headers of the source code: http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-REBOL-3/dir?ci=tip&name=examples | |
Kaj: 13-Jul-2013 | I have extended the Red/System null driver for the Windows kernel into a null mini-filter driver. It now registers itself as a mini-filter and imports functions not only from the kernel, but also from the FilterManager driver, so it is now in a hierarchy of drivers. It now responds to a stop command, so you can stop running the driver like this: sc stop hello-Red I will set up a new repository later to publish the Windows kernel and FilterManager bindings and examples. | |
Robert: 14-Jul-2013 | We did a new Saphir / R3 Andoid release. Changes: -fixed input text renderin bug -reworked misc internal threads synchronisation issues to fix possible dead locks -added ACTIVE, INACTIVE events -added horizontal native scrolling for layouts wider than screen -fixed screen rotation -updated demo script (just type DEMO in the console) -fixed BROWSE bug -added .r3 suffix to be able open this type of R3 scripts automatically -other smaller internal fixes If you want to test it on your phone just run the console and type: do http://development.saphirion.com/experimental/demo.r ATTENTION: We changed the directory layout a bit. You find the Andoid release here: http://development.saphirion.com/experimental/builds/android We added other platforms as well: http://development.saphirion.com/experimental/builds/ And the root is still: http://development.saphirion.com/experimental/ Next Wednesday I will give a short talk about our porting efforts here via Web-Cast: http://www.vksi.de/sneak-preview/17072013-android-qs.htm (German) | |
Robert: 14-Jul-2013 | In conjunction we did a new R3-GUI release as well. added DETAB flag support fixed TEXT-AREA issues fixed TEXT init-size handling fixed SIZE-TXT bug built new R3GUI release (version 4897) delete "experimental" layout-sizing-independent.r3 improve rouding move docs/r3-gui/ to documentation/r3/r3-gui/ remove documentation/r3/r3-gui/license/ directory containing obsolete license Copyright notice update license update typo fixed Rounding correction improved rotate event handling improved drag handling code (removed duplicate gui-events/drag reference) improved android text input handling fixed progress resizing improved text-able cell font handling fonts are antialiased by default on android now http://development.saphirion.com/resources/r3-gui.r | |
Geomol: 17-Jul-2013 | New World alpha release at https://github.com/Geomol/World - Added better networking using cURL library, libcurl (OS X and Linux) - Added tasks incl.: - task! datatype - task-id! datatype - TASKS native function - task? and task-id? mezzanines - Task support for many functions incl. HELP, SOURCE, FIRST, SECOND, PICK, COMPILED? and DISASM - KILL mezzanine to call TASKS/KILL - Added inter-task communication using SEND and RECEIVE native functions - Added support for messages to WAIT as: wait 'message - Added preemptive multitasking using TASKS/TICKS to specify number of Virtual Machine instructions per task run (default is 200) - Added timers for tasks triggered by WAIT native and READ native, when reading from url - Task yield can be achieved by: wait 0 - Changed ;{ } comment syntax to ;( ) - Parens can now span several lines at the prompt - Added system/console/paren - Added support for pressing <Esc> to stop execution of main task - Sending input via pipe to World started with a script will activate input without echo and without <tab>-completion etc.. (Not sure how and if this works under Windows.) - Added support for picking 'Re and 'Im of complex numbers - Better implementation of TRY - New test versions of IF and EITHER, that can take other than block! arguments - Added more tests | |
Robert: 19-Jul-2013 | We have pushed our R3-GUI sources to Github. The project was cleaned up, old stuff removed etc. So it should be in pretty good shape. We keep the GibHub repository in sync with our internal SVN repository. We will further take a look at pull requests and take your feedback into our main line. You can find the repository here: https://github.com/saphirion/r3-gui | |
Group: Community ... discussion about Rebol/Rebol-related communities [web-public] | ||
AdrianS: 31-Dec-2012 | I mentioned a little earlier the idea of posting a message containing links to all Rebol/Rebol-related community locations along with activity levels in each of these. This would be a weekly or bi-weekly posting at each location. The idea is to allow people to easily find out how active the other communities are at the moment if they happen to fall into any one of them as a result of a search, for example. The content would be something like: | |
AdrianS: 31-Dec-2012 | This is a periodic posting of community links along with activity levels for discussion dedicated to Rebol and Rebol-like languages. The intent is to bring a dispersed community together by providing the current list of places where the community gathers along with reasonably accurate activity indicators for each place. This list will be posted in each location weekly or bi-weekly so that anyone dropping by will not have to look far in order to learn where else things are happening. Currently the activity stats are gathered manually and postings are also not automated. This will hopefully change as the requisite scripts to scrape and post automatically are developed. This updated list will eventually be available at http://rebol.comas the site is cleaned up post Rebol open sourcing. # Chats ## R3 Chat This is the primary forum for Rebol 3.0. It runs from any Rebol console in a text mode, but a GUI version is planned. - Run R3, type chat and follow the instructions (all platforms.) - Type "help" for more information or visit R3 DevBase Chat Forum (http://www.rebol.com/r3/devbase/index.html). - To view public messages from any web browser go to RebDev mobile/phone interface (http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rebdev-web.r). - Problems? Please contact Rebol Technologies at (http://www.rebol.com/cgi-bin/feedback/post2.r). Activity: 4 messages this month ## Rebol chat on Stack Overflow (http://chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/291/rebol) - Note that you will need a reputation of 20 in order to be able to post in the chat. - You can gain this minimal reputation (essentially a spam filter) by participating in the Stack Overflow group of sites. Activity: 380 messages this week ## AltME Worlds A private instant messaging system where rebolers hang out 24/7. The current world dedicated to Rebol and Rebol-like language discussion is called REBOL4 - Get client at http://www.altme.com/download.html - connect to the 'rebol-gate' world with user/pass, guest/guest - request account on REBOL4 world in the REBOL4 request group Web archives of public groups, first to last in the most active world, REBOL4, as well as the dormant world, REBOL3: REBOL4 (http://www.rebol.org/aga-groups-index.r?world=r4wp) Activity: 286 posts last 6 days REBOL3 (http://www.rebol.org/aga-groups-index.r?world=r3wp) # Forums ## Rebol Facebook group (http://www.facebook.com/groups/rebol) A new special interest group for Facebook users. Activity: 26 messages this month ## Rebol Google+ community (https://plus.google.com/communities/100845931109002755204) Activity: 4 messages this month ## Rebol Google Group (https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/rebol) Activity: 43 messages this month ## Synapse EHR Rebol Forum (http://synapse-ehr.com/community/forums/rebol.5) A web-based forum for R2 and R3, provided by Synapse EHR Activity: 13 messages this month ## RebelBB France (http://www.digicamsoft.com/cgi-bin/rebelBB.cgi) A simple forum, written in Rebol, for French speakers. Activity: 140 messages this month ## Nick's Rebol Forum (http://rebolforum.com/index.cgi) A micro-forum (just a few lines of Rebol) hosted by Nick Antonaccio. (Note: the captcha question is first.) Activity: 79 messages this month # Q&A (Question & Answer) ## Stack Overflow questions on Rebol http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/rebol Activity: 219 questions tagged http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/rebol3 Activity: 2 questions tagged | |
AdrianS: 31-Dec-2012 | not sure - thought I remembered that the lists are defunct now. The Facebook spot is just a group - is there a mailing list somewhere there as well? | |
AdrianS: 31-Dec-2012 | the AltME numbers are bogus though - I got those from the web archive which shows only the web-public activity (and a non-constant one at that, if you hit F5 repeatedly) | |
Ladislav: 31-Dec-2012 | what is "f8bk"? You mean facebook? Fb is not a mailing list, I think. The https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/rebol is | |
Andreas: 31-Dec-2012 | I think we should put this up on the rebol.net Wiki for a start. This will give us a convenient location to point to. | |
Andreas: 31-Dec-2012 | Actually, we had such a page before: http://rebol.net/wiki/DocBase:Community_Portal | |
Andreas: 31-Dec-2012 | Also, note an additional "chat" venue: IRC. A few of us hang out in IRC in the channel #rebol on freenode (irc://chat.freenode.net, http://freenode.net). 128 messages in December. If you don't have an IRC client handy, freenode also provides a web-based client for quickly looking around: https://webchat.freenode.net/ | |
Andreas: 31-Dec-2012 | I took the liberty of taking AdrianS's posting, reformatted it to Markdown (only minimal changes necessary), added IRC, reordered things slightly, and updated two few counts. Here's a rendering of this updated Markdown document to HTML: http://bolka.at/2012/rebol3/pages/community-radar.html Here's the Markdown source of the updated document: http://bolka.at/2012/rebol3/pages/community-radar.mkd | |
AdrianS: 31-Dec-2012 | Ladislav, I agree about the level of activity not being as useful if the number of contributors is not specified, but for now this will have to do. The way to do this is through some reasonably smart scripting that can obtain a better breakdown of posts by user, either through scraping or some sort of API, if available. | |
Ladislav: 31-Dec-2012 | obtain a better breakdown of posts by user - I do not criticize your findings, I do not even think it is needed to know how many contributors there are; that was rather an observation from me related to one "prolific" contributor | |
AdrianS: 11-Jan-2013 | Andreas, your R3 binaries page looks really nice. Might be worth putting up a link to the Android binary even though it's not built (yet) by your build farm just to have everything available in one place. I'm assuming Saphirion wouldn't mind if the right attribution is made. | |
Maxim: 29-May-2013 | how the hell do we ask to be member of a bord in trello? there is absolutely no menu anywhere to join or ask for membership.. if there is one its very well hidden... so I guess this is an official request to be part of the trello board | |
Cyphre: 30-May-2013 | Well, if you want to use 'web app' which tries a bit to not resemble just "HTML page" you have to always use the most updated browsers. I think this rule will hold for very long time :-) |
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