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don't get me wrong, I like that FF is conscious about screen real 
estate.... its just that opening a window with no buttons, is a bit 
drastic.  I hate pulldown menus because they are extremely slow.

bah, I've learnt so many keyboard shortcuts in my life (with a past 
in vfx and innumerable 3d & fx softwares ;-) that my memory for such 
things is pretty full.

yeah, I know what you mean, but a browser is such a constantly used 
tool that a few shortcuts are worth memorizing, IMO

I have a question regarding fonts on web-sites: Take a look at this 
one here: http://www.binaryage.com/


It uses a font called PLAY which I like a lot. This font wasn't installed 
on my system, but the web-site displayed it. It's even not one of 
the standard web fonts I know. Why does this work?

The Googel Webfonts home page drives my Firefox 3.5 into a crash 
loop

im wondering what is the best way of providing permalinks for mechanical 
parts, like pipe fittings.
i'd like to provide a catalog of them for a couple of companies.

each company has their own part number system which unambigously 
identifies a product. i would expose a description page about these 
as:
/company/part-number

it would however look cryptic and wouldn't empasize what is that 
page about, so we were thinking about attaching a slug to it, to 
help human usage and search engines too.

Q1: im not very sure about how much more effective from a SEO point 
of view to have a slug in the URL as opposed to keywords in meta 
tags and the same description as in the title of the page for example.

A structured description in a title tag would be OK, but it seems 
that URLs help extra

I use a unique identifier such as a date, followed by a textual description 
in the rest of the URL

it's not a news site, so there might be issues with the unqueness 
of the slug and other things like, i might need to display the nominal 
size of the part which is a fraction in many cases, lile 1-1/4" which 
wouldnt read nice at all if i have to replace the slash. the dbl 
quote might be okay to omit though

Yes, readability is a problem, so URLs are often more optimised for 
search engines than for human readers

do u specify the slug manually or let some automatism hint u with 
a possibility 1st?

Well, I've been using rebol for 11 years, but never have used altme 
for support. But I have a

OOPS! I have a problem send email with authentication required. using 
the following

set-net [[tim-:-mydomain-:-com] mail.mydomain.com mail.mydomain.com none 
none none [tim-:-mydomain-:-com] '*******'] where 'mydomain' replaces my 
domain and asterisk obfuscate the password, if I send a message I 
get the following : connecting to: mail.mydomain.com

** User Error: Server error: tcp 503 AUTH command used when not advertised
** Near: smtp-port: open [scheme: 'esmtp] 
either only

As a result, the servere does not advertise any authentication methods

Not sure what to do about the 'old protocol'. Is there a way to change 
it? I'm using 2.6.2.4.2

:) Yes. Did I tell you that I'm a python programmer too? That python 
accepts single quotes? That I put in 'password' instead of "password". 
@#$%! So it got a symbol instead of a string?

Just got the message back, yours too. So, I owe you a beer. Come 
on by and collect.

Rather than a beer, you may make a donation to Medecins Sans Frontieres 
in my name http://www.msf.ca/donate/donate-online/:)

As usually, problem is with IE compatibility. And in my case also 
need for extended chars. The best would be a tool where one could 
create or modify own fonts. http://openfontlibrary.org/fonts

I think you can just do that using post with a Content-type: multipart/form-data 
and send the boundary, and post size

Is it possible to update a script on rebol.org that I'm not the owner? 
or should I upload a new version?
I added set-top-most to window-util.r script.

I see, I don't know if he is active or not, script is not that old.
Normally should I post a new version? or try to contact him?

He hasn't been here in a while though.

let me try a different codec.

I can make out someone typing at a computer. :)

I see some squares moving arround. Are you a square?

anyone can suggest a good codec that works across different versions 
of QT and VLC?

I see a stream, working perfectly here in QT 7 on windows

sound of a car

just a sec

and a vlc permanently disconnecting and the upper queter workjs, 
rest green

There is a truck outside!

someone making a lot of noise outside...

and, do we have a mac that is fast enough?

users connect to a server that does relay. maybe we can have surfnet 
doing relay for us, otherwise we have my server in texas (the one 
you're seeing now)

lower framerate, but the picture looks a bit clearer sometimes. there 
is less stability in the image though

i think the result would be much better with a server here in europe.

it probably goes through many nodes... sometimes you get a good connection, 
other times bad.

I heard a car horn honking 10 seconds ago. what's the delay?

it's very annoying that it takes so long to get a keyframe

i could try to make it send a keyframe every second, but that would 
use a lot more bw.

WHat is with vlc and 264? I know nothing about codecs, just googled 
a bit and found this: http://developers.videolan.org/x264.html

ok, I got a keyframe very quickly, but the video pauses almost instantly

vlc can handle the stream fine for a period, but then dies

didec: cpu shouldn't be a problem. even with h.264 it never eats 
more than 50% here on my 1.25 Ghz mini

also, anyone ever tryed apple's avchat? could it be used in a situation 
like this?

ichat eats a lot of cpu

realvideo is too much proprietary for my taste. ;) but... i'll have 
a look at it too maybe.

doesn't that require a windows server though?

vlc can also stream video, but I don't know if it can grab from a 
webcam

me too, but only for mpeg transport, and from a dvd source.

from a DV (firewire camera) source the only thing working out of 
the box is QT on MacOS

How about a live stream when the DevCon is running? Others can Enjoy 
realtime.. Perhpas even interact ?

Well, I saw "live stream", and that demo can be hard to find, so 
I took a wild guess  ^_-

I will have Skype and Altme running for people to interact. I will 
have a live video stream, but the priority is for good recordings.

Nope. I am getting a network error right after the buffer seems to 
be filled.

Now I got a 404 error.

not a great day today, but there's some sun now :)

Or is it a Band?

Humm. That should be enough. Maybe a network error? Are you using 
tcp from broadcaste to relay?

we can do a test with you connecting directly to my mini

Ok. At least lets try with a bigger window. See how it behaves.

ok... so i actually think the way to make it work fine is to have 
a relay here in europe with a lot of bw

but if we have to switch to a lesser codec, like 263, for compatibility, 
it gets higher

looks good today, a couple of dropouts through, but it picks up quickly 
again both with audio and video

without packet loss (i.e. on my lan) quality is very good. if you 
see it ok there then i assume we can go this way, maybe with a relay 
from surfnet.

turning the stream off, unless there's someone else wanting to give 
it a try...

is there a problem with the conference pages?

UDP transport, so that could be a problem.

this is strange, it works here on the pc but i get a timeout on the 
mac.

let me try making a link...

yep - page is not linked anywhere yet and is just for testing purposes. 
i guess we'll have a lot to add when we go "public". (also, i'd make 
it public just when the stream starts. so that there is no confusion. 
earlier, just a message on the site that says "on sept. 30 a live 
stream will be available through this site")

on windows with firefox and QT 7, qt gets the stream from a TCP connection 
to motoko.rebol.it:554

I just booked my flight to Milan. Here is my arrival data:
29-09-2005 18:25 in  Milan, Malpensa [MXP] TERMINAL 1


I have rented a car as well. So if someone is arriving around the 
same time let me know and we can drive together.

I'm going to buy the train tickets in advance (because we need a 
reservation and it's better to do that sooner than later). You can 
pay me when we meet in Rome.

MichaelB: The Hotel is in the outskirts of a small town bordering 
with Treviglio. www.hotelverri.it

So, in general how good is Europe about open WiFI?


In America, I think Starbucks offers free internet access (wireless), 
or perhaps you need to keep buying coffee...I don't drink coffe so 
I have never confirmed this.

In general I find that if I drive by any office compkexe I can get 
an open signal though. Even in Maui, I went to the industrial area, 
and there was a perfect connection while I ate at a little food place 
in an odd industrial park.

i got a discount, so in the end it's going to be € 45 per person.

i think i'll send all of you a reminder email with the tickets you 
requested, total money due and so on.

Reichart, open WiFi is not that often available. You need a provider 
to access WiFi. There are a lot of HotSpots but not for free.

Yep. Most hotspots certainly in the UK cost money, often quite a 
lot. That includes Starbucks.

On the other hand, there are a lot of unprotected networks....Not 
that I'd want to enter a password while using one.

Starbucks WiFi costs in the US, too. I am lucky that Seattle has 
a lot of small local coffeeshops with free WiFi. In one right now, 
actually :-)

Yeah, there is a big movement to make WiFI free in america, I would 
have to agree, it is worth it.  Like being able to call 911 for free 
from a payphone.  Perhaps the max throughput would have a threshold.


Anyway, Europe, well, I guess I will be always seeking an office 
where I can plug in.

Steve will not be able to join us and his speech will be replaced 
by a presentation of Canvas RPaint by Geomol.

so unless they show up as a surprise... they are not coming.

try rtsp://217.133.2.35/teststream.sdp - though not sure i have enough 
bw for both relay and a connection

we plan a visit to the ethernal city, Rome .. is this like a wired 
city ?

For info Dockimbel can't come as he will be in London for a marriage. 
He is sad but can't do otherwise.

James: yes, the site is completely build with makedoc. a version 
with some modifications, sure, but still makedoc. (Chris' CMS with 
some changes by me.)

i'm going to send out some emails to define some details, finally 
we have a list of options for the banquet so that you can chose your 
preferred meal.

also, i'd like everyone (except those that will be in rome, since 
we're arriving together) to tell me when and where they arrive, and 
if they already have a plan to reach the hotel or treviglio. this 
way i can make sure everyone knows where to go, and noone gets lost.

Traveling is hard on me.  I'm tall so seats are uncomfortable.  Plus 
we were in the middle of the plane, both to Germany and Greece. 18 
hours…


Being back in Germany is always a little hard on me as well (has 
to do with my childhood, lots of flashbacks).


The airport has these annoying "stations" just out in the hallway 
for people to smoke.  It is a disgusting smell. I truly don't care 
that people smoke, I just hate smelling it or getting it on me.


Taxis in Greece was worse than taxis in Boston.  I think our driver 
thought he was riding a motorcycle.  I just closed my eyes and picked 
a Greek god to pray to.  I chose ana…anna…what is her last name, 
or yeah, Anorexia.

Reichart, if you're on vacation, you're supposed to have a good time! 
I'm sorry to hear, you're having these problems.

I'm sure a good old Guru Meditation will take you to a much better 
mood.
All the best! :-)

G, I don't consider these problems really. And I don't consider travel 
to be vacation.  Traveling is about...well...traveling.  I enjoy 
it, but to relax I prefer to be home.  My house is like a Bahamian 
resort,  people ask to stay at my house when I'm gone because it 
is like a nice hotel.

anyone willing to create one or more themes for use with show.r that 
we could use for the devcon? i'd like to have a consistent theme 
(maybe inspired by the web site?) for all presentations (of course 
with variations, maybe in color or something like that, so each author 
can choose the preferred variation), and i also need a nice skin 
for a little reblet that will be included in show.r (i made one, 
but i'm no good at these things...)

What would be the best way to produce them?  I've changed background 
images before, but not really created a theme...

I wanna have a go at it too. I'll try some simple stuff with a LAYOUT.