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Group: DevCon2007 ... DevCon 2007 [web-public]
[unknown: 9]:
11-May-2007
Know if my team has a problem, etc.
Brock:
11-May-2007
would make a good sound-clip
[unknown: 9]:
11-May-2007
Petr, yes, in the SDK, but primitive right now, in about 2 weeks 
we start teh big Doc push, and will be hiring a full time WRANGLER 
to handle developers and the docs.
[unknown: 9]:
11-May-2007
(I'm typing on a very small keyboard, excuse all the typos)
[unknown: 10]:
11-May-2007
do you have a global introduction sheet for compagny's ?
[unknown: 9]:
11-May-2007
Volker LOL, yes, in the projects you are part of, it would be quite 
right now.  Most is happening in a project that only has a few people 
in it right now, including Carl, Ashley, etc.  The SDK is where al 
the talk wil be happening soon.
[unknown: 9]:
11-May-2007
Sure am glad Carl is wearing blue on green, and not grreen on green...he 
sort of looked like a wood nymph yesterday.... : )
[unknown: 9]:
11-May-2007
SW = a sub team of us.
Pekr:
11-May-2007
and what is the relation to SafeWorlds? Is that a separate company 
too?
Volker:
11-May-2007
Yes, they have to wait a loot betwen battles ;)
Volker:
11-May-2007
And we have to wait a lot weeks totouch it.. :(
[unknown: 10]:
11-May-2007
callbacks is always a hard part..
Sunanda:
11-May-2007
plug-in (in this sense) is C-code thta plugs into REBOL.....A bit 
like writing your own natives. So makes REBOL highly extensible.
[unknown: 10]:
11-May-2007
Q: can any language be linked as a plugin interface?
Gabriele:
11-May-2007
norman, they are a dll
Gabriele:
11-May-2007
if you can make a dll, you are probably fine, but of course more 
details will be available later on
[unknown: 10]:
11-May-2007
A great !
Maxim:
11-May-2007
plugins have to be compiled as a library on each OS  dll, dso, etc.
[unknown: 10]:
11-May-2007
what is the core size of a minimal plugin ?
Graham:
11-May-2007
any reporters going to write a summary of each session??
[unknown: 9]:
11-May-2007
That is why I like Didier, he is a bad guy.........like me.
Dockimbel:
11-May-2007
Reichart: for me you are a clone of this Guy, a famous french comic 
guy named "Michael youn".
See by yourself : http://www.cbo-boxoffice.com/full/p12822.jpg

But anyway, never talk me again. I don't know of your existence anymore
 > DideC
[unknown: 9]:
11-May-2007
Doc - Yeah, I do look like that.  In fact a lot like that when I 
was very young. LOL
Henrik:
11-May-2007
dockimbel, right. there's no room for a camera crane in there
[unknown: 9]:
11-May-2007
Here is a pick of me at 16 http://brkvw.com/images/Photos/BRKVW-BeachwoodLolas.jpg
 Much like Youn...
Henrik:
11-May-2007
btw. did anyone bring a camera to take pictures at the devcon? would 
make good press stuff.
[unknown: 9]:
11-May-2007
I tihnk the goal is to keep this all a secret..........shhhhhhhhhhhh!
Dockimbel:
11-May-2007
You looked like a famous singer duo in the eighties http://www.goudy.ca/carnet/images/D&J.jpg
Graham:
11-May-2007
Who sings with a dog as a duet??
[unknown: 9]:
11-May-2007
It was a popular look back then LOL  but I think I actually look 
a lot like this - Hank Scorpio

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/6140/homerundscorpio6ap.jpg
Graham:
11-May-2007
Hmm.  I think I've seen a pix of Volker with a dog ...
Graham:
11-May-2007
Was that competition to identify Rebolers a few years ago ?
Dockimbel:
11-May-2007
Reichart: I go to trouble now that Youn and you wear a barb! http://elveteran.mon-blog.org/images/24487/people/Youn.jpg
Terry:
11-May-2007
Here's a current set of photos of our team  http://redwerks.org/team
[unknown: 9]:
11-May-2007
Youn looks a little like Ringo Star...
[unknown: 9]:
11-May-2007
Time to point the camera at teh screen a littel.
Graham:
11-May-2007
Or, Sunanda can stand next to screen to act as a focus ??
Graham:
11-May-2007
I guess you can't focus a camera on Glass
Graham:
11-May-2007
Max's left hand isn't doing much ... use it as a focal point
[unknown: 9]:
11-May-2007
It is a diff way of thinking than View.
Graham:
11-May-2007
is that a halo around carl ?
[unknown: 10]:
11-May-2007
there is a halo in the whole room ;-)
[unknown: 10]:
11-May-2007
well? its a frensh wall afterall..
Graham:
11-May-2007
France is a nuclear power
Graham:
11-May-2007
I bags a room at Reichart's house!
[unknown: 10]:
11-May-2007
sound like a place the secret service hides out...
[unknown: 10]:
11-May-2007
I have seen a lot of server parks but none of them where so blue 
as this one ;-) great!
Henrik:
11-May-2007
Reichart, I guess I'm not much of a water person :-) Last time I 
was at the beach was +10 years ago.
Graham:
11-May-2007
Got a statue of Kamehameha-I on my mantel peice
[unknown: 9]:
11-May-2007
There is a !Qtask group
Pekr:
11-May-2007
Hawai ... I wonder how expensive is there a stay? Reichart - could 
you tell us? E.g. one room - at least average price?
[unknown: 9]:
11-May-2007
I know a lot of people with B&Bs so I think it will be cheaper than 
paris.  As in less than $100 per night.
Graham:
11-May-2007
Pekr, Reichart has a mansion ...
Graham:
11-May-2007
and a beachfront .. can sleep on the beach!
[unknown: 9]:
11-May-2007
I have to call it a night, I have only slept 2 hours in the past 
48, and have a bunch of meetings in the next 16 hours.
[unknown: 9]:
11-May-2007
Maui is a morning place, not a night place.
[unknown: 9]:
11-May-2007
Paradise was lost when the Christians planted African thorn trees 
on the beaches of maui to stop the natives from walking around barefoot.................but 
that is for a diff group : )
Anton:
11-May-2007
Will need a lot of "enhancement" to see them in those webcams :)
Robert:
11-May-2007
No, IMO it's a product consolidation step. Whereas I don't know what 
/View has to do with this.
Mario:
11-May-2007
Sometimes a hit to the door was heard: did they drink too much wine 
to unlock the door, earlier?
[unknown: 10]:
11-May-2007
i think we need a robotic-cam next year..
btiffin:
11-May-2007
It's a deep tool.
Volker:
11-May-2007
(i recognise my spoken english is much to bad to follow this. hope 
there comes something written/recorded (if recorded i can try it 
a few times^^)
Dockimbel:
11-May-2007
Pekr: schedule has changed due to ...hem, you know, pb with Skype 
session and so on.

Carl said us at the beginning that he coul addadpt his speach to 
the needs. Making 2, 3 or more sessions, grouping things...

So modules where introduced this morning, but We will not have time 
to make a session on it.
Hope he will pubhished his slide on it anyway
Maxim:
11-May-2007
sunanda,  specifically, that site is not the relavance site.  maybe, 
its a local reseller of the technology.
Robert:
11-May-2007
It's just using a graph-based approach. Good idea, and really better. 
no query necessary just traverse the graph.
[unknown: 10]:
11-May-2007
integrating with rebol though is a nice close fit based on linquistics..
Maxim:
11-May-2007
not sure, but they work at a much higher level, they can aggregate 
contexts and relationship set based on multi-dimensional.
Maxim:
11-May-2007
input/output is one dimension.  its a relationship of dependency.
Robert:
11-May-2007
Well, than you have clustered your edges to a grouping node...
Maxim:
11-May-2007
free your mind of a graph... each node as multiple sets of edges.
[unknown: 10]:
11-May-2007
Mmmmm so a live-backup of this should be a pace of cake related to 
the flexibilty...
Anton:
11-May-2007
shelter

 - if he does not talk about it, I would ask him about security. Separate 
 traditional databases implies a certain amount of security, by isolation. 
 A single database with "everything your organisation knows" in it 
 must have lines of control. I suppose the security  controls is just 
 a concept which is associated like anything else... but would like 
 to know his explanation.
Maxim:
11-May-2007
each levels can map to a specific type of hw/sw structure.
Maxim:
11-May-2007
so that you can easily (and quickly) know if a node is local or on 
the other side of the earth
Sunanda:
11-May-2007
Implementing the analysis is only possible if the response times 
meet the business needs. If not, you need a faster layer.
Maxim:
11-May-2007
carl also seems to like liquid  :-D  and liked liquidGL a lot...
Maxim:
11-May-2007
so there might be a way to get relavance and RT as the engine, and 
elixir as the desktop  :-)
Maxim:
11-May-2007
BTW, my demo was supposed to include a networked node system, but 
a snag in my hasty implimentation kept me from finishing in time 
for the devcon.
[unknown: 10]:
11-May-2007
how do you fit 500 Million in a Graphical presentaion ?
[unknown: 10]:
11-May-2007
well as a overall display its still 1 million...
Christian:
11-May-2007
could anyone take a high-res photo of the screen?
Anton:
11-May-2007
Christian, I had a good look at their website when it was mentioned 
first here in rebol-land. I am pretty sure you can find the whole 
presentation there.
[unknown: 10]:
11-May-2007
but in a structure of 1 million how do i get from a -> z  quickly 
?
Anton:
11-May-2007
I remember reading a fair bit of material similar to maybe the first 
third what we're seeing now.
Pekr:
11-May-2007
ah, my message did not get it thru :-) Is Carl's Concluding remarks 
following? Maybe a time for final questions?
Gabriele:
11-May-2007
A: to anton: very few organizations have implemented an AD up to 
now. Departement of Defense,, and also Health Care in Canada
Maxim:
11-May-2007
his gui is a bit un intuitive, I had a private demo a few weeks ago 
and it a while before it feeling "obvious" to me.
Christian:
11-May-2007
... and web research is hampered by the fact that "relavance" is 
a common misspelling ;-)
btiffin:
11-May-2007
That was a good intro...
Christian:
11-May-2007
if there was a second cam shooting high-res images of the projections 
that'd be optimal.
yeksoon:
11-May-2007
is there a summary of the sessions ....

could not catch up with all the conversations here
[unknown: 10]:
11-May-2007
a i have visual again
[unknown: 10]:
11-May-2007
with a regular character base of 2000-3000 for a regular chinees 
this is handy for europeans indeed! ;-)
btiffin:
11-May-2007
I got to play with a demo Kanji keyboard at IBM once.  Holy deskspace 
batman.
18 shift keys.  Used in combination to build the characters.
Mario:
11-May-2007
Yep, Chinese keyboard is a normal US or UK keyboard and you write 
in pinyin or with specific input methods
[unknown: 10]:
11-May-2007
I have some stuff here from China that has english menu's but some 
it put pack after reset to chinese.. Still unable to figure out how 
to put it all back ;-) This tool is a handy helpout here..
[unknown: 10]:
11-May-2007
oo he realy did a nice job...
Mario:
11-May-2007
Nice as a ZX Spectrum
Mario:
11-May-2007
Yes, the program draws like a brush with the right strokes order
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