AltME groups: search

(my machine will probably crash now)

I recently got the recycle bug  on a single group of a small world 
(repeatdly ) untill someone else posted to that group.  (note my 
client was running on the same machine the world was running on)

0) multiple fallback mechanisms for getting/staying connected.

1) absolute control of what is actualy removed from local machine... 
ever.

2) better support for using a single account from several machines.
3) better support for using several worlds from one computer.

4) finer control of what posts you are exposed to. (groups and users 
and users in groups) 
5) filesharing
6) api,locks, so we can muck with the filesets.

7) calendar,just fix it up. hour/day/week views, sorting,repeated,various 
alerts ...
8) adjustable font sizes

9) search should return hits (the text) from further back than your 
message buffer limit.
10) OSX support & recycle bug

DideC: here is result of the test on my machine: http://www.rebol.cz/~cyphre/agg-ansi.png
It looks normal here imo. But Rebol is not unicode yet so this is 
problematic area. Which version of Windows are you using? What default 
codepage/keyboard/national settings?

I just tested some scripts with rebcmd2512531.exe. 

Now they use the machine upto 100% and the machine reacts very  sluggish 
to user input, where before it was still usable..

Also chasing svm.r Simple Virtual Machine which was related to the 
KOSH project

Oh and I have some fx5 styles stored in a backup of an old REBOL/View 
cache that is not on wayback machine.

The upload obviously worked -- "+" is not an illegal file name character 
on either Edgars machine or REBOL.org's current host

The notes on contributing a packgae do have detailed guidelines on 
file naming to avoind problems -- see 2.1 here:

http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/boiler.r?display=cons-upload-package-files-help.html

But, of course, the author probably wrote the application before 
they had any idea it might be rolled out as a package for use on 
a wide range of platforms.
***

The bottom line is that + ought to work in a file name for the downloader, 
so I'll get it fixed.

Nice set of subtle colours!

On my Win-based machine,  all selected text is the same colour....white 
text on dark blue (though that is configurable)
***

A thought: if instead of FONT tags  you could switch to CSS. Then 
your experiments could use the same class names as the Library. Implementing 
that as your personal CSS on REBOL.org would be trivial

There are some gotchas using 'localhost'. Now on my linux machine, 
when I changed my I.P. from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.6, I then had 
to connect using my machine's hostname (which was "linus") . If I 
attempt to connect using this machine's hostname (lucy) I get : MYSQL 
ERROR 1045 : Access denied for user ['tim'-:-'lucy'] (using password: 
YES). And I *have* also granted privileges to [tim-:-lucy] indentified 
by 'password''

This hobby c-coder would need an xp-machine, and the plugin is the 
only use i have for it..

I'm getting the Error 1043 Bad Handshake problem accessing My-SQL 
5.0.18 on Windows/XP using mysql-protocol.r via  localhost: that 
Alain Goyé reported on the mailing list:

>> db: open mysql://root:?@localhost/fundamentals
Password: *********
connecting to: localhost
>> insert db "SELECT * FROM books"
** User Error: ERROR 1043 : Bad handshake
** Near: insert db "SELECT * FROM books"

It works fine from another machine over the LAN.

Arno Klenke, our new coding machine after Kurt burned out over AtheOS 
:-)

It says it compiles to 68000 machine code. This thing is very specific 
to 68000 and to Amiga. Not at all suitable for porting to Syllable

You could, but it would be messy, especially the last upgrade to 
0.5.7. And you may not find out that newer Syllables don't run on 
your machine until you upgrade

Including a machine to use them? :)

Syllable boots in about ten seconds and shuts down in a few, so reboot 
time would be about fifteen seconds plus the time the machine takes 
to initialize and get to the boot loader

If you go to Syllable menu -> About -> Advanced -> Devices tab, you 
can see what's supported on your machine

How much work to reinstall? And is there a spare machine for installation 
experiments?

It's alright, it's not my main machine.

Shutdown has never worked. Reboot does. Shutdown should work in the 
next version when we introduce ACPI power management. (Although maybe 
not on your old machine)

I am not where that machine is so cant really help

maybe you can do it by adding a new hd to the server. still a non-trivial 
task though, and i would try it on a local machine at least twice 
before attempting on a remote machine. :)

The machine is a dedicated one. I'm the only user of it with full-root 
access rights.

the terminal server is used by the hosting company to access multiple 
servers consoles without having physical consoles. When they reboot 
a machine the can get the bios boot messages because there is a console 
cable to the terminal server and they normally access the terminal 
server via ssh

I had the same problems with the last /view release 1.3 on my old 
Slackware machine.. the dependency libs where knowwhere to find... 
else then hidden deep inside gcc somewhere..

Personally I would temporarily hook up a DVD drive to that machine, 
though

But, I do not have a DVD on the target machine, only CDROM. The distro 
is on DVD, so I need to create a CDROM set from the DVD.

I also built the floppy set, and figured I would use my own local 
Debian archivel site from a different local machine.  So, mounted 
the DVD on one system and published it with HTTP, and the floppy 
boot worked, found the host, but the installer rejected the archive.

I also run the debian-version of Altme currently on my slackware 
machine.. Looks fine..

Well.. all applications on my linux machine use and anti-aliased 
and truetype fonts....so that config is correct.. But what i try 
or what i run on fonts Linux simlpy doesnt display the font.. It 
loads the font.. (checked that)...but thats it.. just a white field.. 
So .. I give up... ;-(

some guy tested Linux distros on old machine ...
http://www.linux.com/print.pl?sid=06/02/13/1854251

the choice of WM will be the key factor, I think.

...sorry .. no experience of yum ....I'm as new to Linux as you ...I 
installed Ubuntu desktop as a dual-boot on my XP machine.

I've gotta get a new machine first.

How is Syllable going, by the way ? It must be nearly time for my 
yearly attempt to install Syllable. (I have a new machine to install 
it on.)

hmm... I got "Killed" in a rebol console that was quit by the machine. 
I wonder if that is similar to a segfault?

Built a Kubuntu machine for my flatmate. Pretty painless install, 
I have to say. There are some issues with the all-in-one motherboard 
though, like inbuilt audio and ethernet chipsets are not detected, 
apparently. Fixed ethernet by plugging in an old network card.

Do I need to add my machine name to the users ?

I think I just needed to add my laptop as  a user machine .... but 
it didn't like it when I tried.  Invalid name etc.

I can run Magic! under Apache 1.5 on my machine; I don't have Apache 
2 installed.


I have magic.cgi installed in the cgi-bin directory (equivalent of 
your cgi-script) and access the .rhtml pages from another directory. 
This is my setup:

In the httpd.conf file:

AddHandler magic .rhtml          
    Action magic /cgi-bin/magic.cgi

in the URL/cgi-bin folder 
 magci.cgi

in the URL/magic folder
 test.rhtml

page accessed via http://URL/Magic/test.rhtml

Hope this helps

The nice thing about the Nokia is that it's not a pda, it's something 
really new, and for geeks it's a dream machine, it's just plain linux

Yes, I know. But what I didn't got yet, is how do I make the whole 
FS using S3? IMO a special version of Linux is required that uses 
S3 only, nothing else. Otherwise I can't use EC2 as I would use a 
normal machine.

There's no way to boot a Linux from S3 except the way it already 
works: you store your virtual machine image on S3 and EC2 starts 
it from there

I justed installed Kubuntu on this machine BUT the installed leaves 
a lot of room for improvement.If I had never installed a Linux distro 
before,Kubuntu for the normal Windows user would have them saying 
"f*** Linux. The install gui does not have a progress bar and when 
it is done installing, it does not let the user know the install 
is done and what to do next :( Mandriva on the other hand has an 
excellent install gui. If the major distros could work on a unified 
install gui it would be worth its weight in salt. I did see an effort 
to that end by 2 different ppl but they can not work together because 
of design/programming ideas :( Linux on the desktop works well once 
installed/configed but still it not made for joe six pack

Faster to write, or faster to run? I recently had to move a bunch 
of data and used XXCopy, because I thought it would be faster than 
REBOL (couldn't get robocopy for the old W2K machine I needed it 
on). After it took 34 hours to copy the data, I'm pretty sure REBOL 
would have been just as fast, or faster.

BTW: The hanging happens even for connection to "localhost". But 
those connections are resolved via the machine name and a DNS lookup. 
The DNS server is operated by an external provider.

Umm, read that link Anton.  You can set authorization keys for SSH. 
 It takes a liitle to setup, but handy dandy once set.  Then you 
can disallow password login.   And if you don't know the machine 
and have shared keys, no looky no touchy.  It's part of what I'd 
like to see with the REBOL ring of trust.  Digital signatures.

But rebolview for Debian does not load on my Kubuntu machine.  Well, 
actually it loads, but after I give my user info it dies and won'

I do not believe that 'rebol on the linux server is the latest. I 
am using 2.5.6.3.1 (for windows) on this machine. I think I've got 
the latest for linux on my main workstation, but it is not available 
right now....

Chris: from what I see, it does not. Either the file has to be transfered 
and saved on the server with unix-style line enders or -q has to 
be there to make it work for me. Time will tell. Unfortunately I 
don't have a linux machine to download and compare.... Can you say 
"Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle"? :-) Anway, what works, works. 
I'll post more on this subject when I actually get back to programming. 
thanks.

(local machine)

and it returns:

make object! [
    server-software: none
    server-name: none
    gateway-interface: none
    server-protocol: none
    server-port: none
    request-method: none
    path-info: none
    path-translated: none
    script-name: none
    query-string: none
    remote-host: none
    remote-addr: none
    auth-type: none
    remote-user: none
    remote-ident: none
    Content-Type: none
    content-length: none
    other-headers: []
]

well, I'm editing and running on my linux machine, so I assume so.

Well, I don't have it working on my home machine, but I've got it 
on coolnamehere.com. So I can work on CGI stuff, and figure out what's 
wrong on my machine at my own leisure :-)

it all depends, if such machine has X-Windows installed, or not. 
Mine has not IIRC ....

size-text: xwindows is client/server. the x-server , that is your 
local computer, which offers to aplications to display things to 
you. And it has some important informations locally, especially the 
fonts (and can cache images and such).

/view needs access to the fonts and so access to a running x-server. 
the x-libs are only an interface to connect to the server. (The xserver-libs 
could be used directly, but well, /view does not do that. Seems to 
be tricky.)
A incomplete sketch how to do it, with no attention to security:

So with /view you need a running x-server, one way to do that  headless 
is vnc.  Can also run on another machine. 

Then you need to tell  rebol where it is, there is an env-var $DISPLAY. 
Which must be set before rebol runs. Did not figure out how to configure 
that. Running a bash-script as cgi, set  $DISPLAY, call the real 
rebol-script should work. And there may be issues with authentification, 
x-windows does not like everyone to connect by default, or the other 
way around, its too easy to make it too open ("xhost + ip"). There 
are more secure ways, but looked more complicated and i never tried. 
All in all i would run such things on windows.

Maarten, I agree with your observation and you can even scale it 
more.


If you see a web-server as just a request dispatcher to CGIs and 
a fast-answering-machine for user-feedback (pages, forms etc.) you 
just need a small and "simple" one like Cheyenne. The CGIs can be 
distributed to different cores (through the OS) or even to different 
machines (via TCP/IP).

With Cheyenne you can already have the main httpd process on one 
machine and task-handlers (RSP or whatever) on other machines 8)

With the avereage memory use fo Rebol < 10Mb you can coompute how 
many users I can concurrently server for complex operations (100-200 
minimum), so every machine I hire can host 500 customers. That means 
that I should earn e0.50 customer to get  a decent margin (roughly).

Yes, I have a WinXP machine.

Pekr...keys in diferrent positions.  I have that problem of swiching 
machines too.

In the ideal world, I'd have one personal keyboard and use it on 
any machine. Without having to do all the unplugging. driver upgrading, 
and rebooting first....eFishAnt can you design the ultimate portable 
keyboard for me!?

does IE 5.0 support 2.0 css? Because - I would not orientiate webdesign 
to NS 4.x or IE 4.x anymore - ppl should adapt, and if IE 4.x runs 
on such machine (Win95), so can Opera or Firefox ...

I'm only on 900 MhZ machine and the resizing is real-time with my 
mouse movements.

Mike, I started using Apache and rebol as cgi, this is not suited 
for performances as on every call to the cgi, a new instance of rebol 
is  initialized, run and closed.

I thought about using fastcgi, but never came to a working solution.
Now I use uniserve as main webserver, here some advantages:

-it is fast! On my local machine I get +- 600 req/sec for static 
pages and a max of 160req/sec for dynamic rsp pages

-it is written in rebol, I could easly(less than 10 lines code) add 
a rewrite engine

-child process are persistent, this mean you can keep state of your 
web applications, implement caching, keep a pool of connection to 
databases open (in apache + rebol/cgi you'd have to open and close 
the connection for every request)
-it is written by Dock whom I may be the biggest fan ;-)

btw I'm running an unreleased version (have bought commercial support) 
 that support http 1.1, stuff like If-Modified etc..

If you have more specific questions, I'll be glad to try and answer.

The only difference is whether it is push (callbacks) or pull (state 
machine, I think).

max: tree rewriting is the technique that compilers use to get from 
the source AST to the final machine code; you can also imagine purely 
functional languages as special tree rewriting engines.

my kind of machine, I have a small ibm thinkpad, and wouldn't trade 
it for a bigger more powefull one... only thing I regret, is not 
having internal CD support... although I don't really need it... 
you can't do everything with a memory stick!

Those are good numbers for a current machine Louis.

I want to visit a Cash-Machine and "not" see the blue screen of dead 
but "Please call Carl, init.r is missing"..

My current machine is 3.5 years old, and is starting to breathe heavily 
at times, and take little naps when it chooses. It's time to think 
about the future.

This setup will be for software development and remote administration. 
It can be a big box, but I'm not opposed to docking a small machine, 
as long as I can use a good monitor and my ergo-keyboard.


What are your favorite setup configs? Have multiple monitors helped 
you? Lots of disk space? An in-house NAS? etc. On the software side, 
what general infrastructure bits do you use? I like Reichart's drive 
model, and have used it very well with Ghost and Partition Magic, 
but haven't gone to PGP or TrueCrypt (yet).


Hardware wise, after setting up a machine with a fast SAS drive, 
man, that's appealing, but expensive. What kind of KVM do you like, 
or do you avoid them (my epxerience is mixed)? Do you like separate 
machines or VMWare? Do you like a Mac base, and emulation, or a real 
Windows machine? Any converts from Win to *nix? Build your own, or 
who do you like these days? Plain Jane, or something special like 
they build for traders? Silent PC? Mini?

What have you tried that didn't work out?


Space is not an issue. I have a huge old surplus desk that will hold 
anything.

My Mac iBook is the best machine, I've bought in more than a decade. 
I've used it daily for more than 2 years without any problems at 
all. I plan to get a Mac Mini and a flat HD monitor in the near future. 
I hope to have better Mac support for REBOL with R3. I find, that 
I get more work done with a Mac, because it just works. When I have 
to use Windows, I use Remote Desktop Connection from my Mac to a 
Win machine at work.

I still use 1.8GHZ Athlon machine, I have ability to use 2 notebooks, 
or other hw. The main trouble for me is noise. When I come home, 
in the evening, I would prefer silent pc. So, even my current set-up 
has some Arctic Cooling Silent Pro CPU cooler and my gfx card is 
fan free. I also bought power supply with big 12cm fan, as fanless 
(passive is quite expensive). If you want to silent your pc, go and 
read some sites, as:

-  www.silentpcreview.com
- www.mini-itx.com
- www.epiacenter.de


IMO nowadays you need all those fancy DualCore CPUs only if you do 
some CPU crunching intensive work, e.g. video, sound editing, etc. 
Other than that, I can bet your PC is pretty much overspecced. I 
remember doing fine with Duron750, with enough of memory and windowsXP. 
If your PC starts lagging, then just reinstall XP from scratch ...


I will live with my current set-up for another one - two years, and 
then I plan on completly silent PC, maybe even without HD, with gigabit 
local network plus wi-fi around the house.  I will combine it with 
some new hi-fi set-up, as my Technics set-up starts to be a bit aged 
(12 years) ...

And one more: I'm using a 2TB NAS system (Thecus) to store shared 
things. Works great (things to add: automatic backup to Amazon S3 
(now you know why I want it)). Than I have two PCs (1 Desktop and 
1 Laptop) and 1 Mac Mini (Intel)


The Mac Mini is a totaly cool machine. Silent, fast, and it just 
works.


Hence, my next desktop will become a Mac Pro. Hopefully VMWare works 
than.

You can't port REBOL as-is to the iPhone with their SDK, as the SDK 
license specifically forbids porting programming languages, though 
compiled languages might be allowed if they cross-compile from the 
development machine. Runtime code generation is prohibited.

I think of Rebol very differently than most people I assume, but 
I have created languages, so I look at them from the inside out.


To Rebol is a giant state-machine that operates on strings.  It is 
a statemachine because it "remembers" what you did to a string last.



Imagine if all you had was sets of strings: "abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz" 
"1234567890" "one two three four" "name: Bob phone: 123-4567 Age: 
46"


Rebol tracks these strings, and keeps some overhead information for 
them such as where the current pointer (cursor) is in them.  That 
is about it.

Now, lets create 400 variations of string commands.


We will want a way to pull just the age out of that last string. 
 We create a word called "Select"  you pass Select a word (a substring) 
such as "age", and it return the next separate substring, in this 
case "46"


So there really are not 400 commands, actually there are more like 
5, and all these other commands are variations.

Ok, Reichart, this concept of Rebol as a giant state-machine helps. 
Only 5 basic instructions...? To identify some of these meta-functions 
would help.

All languages are a giant state machine, as matter of fact all computing 
is. The basic op is NAND. ;-)

All languages are a giant state machine, as matter of fact all computing 
is. The basic op is NAND. ;-)


True, in a Turning sort of way.  But I think Rebol is more so that 
C for example, where variables are forgotten, and functions tend 
not to have memory.

denismx, when I've taught REBOL to people, even people who are already 
familiar with other programming languages, it has been helpful to 
make the distinction between the REBOL language and the dialect engines.


REBOL is really a data model and related syntax, and a bundle of 
library functions that manipulate data in this model. A dialect is 
really a semantic model for interpreting this data, like what people 
think of as a language in real life. A dialect engine is a set of 
library functions that think of the data in the same way - I know 
this sounds anthropomorphic, but it makes it easier to explain REBOL 
if you think of the different dialect engines as entities that are 
acting on a set of commands you are giving them. You can even use 
role playing to demonstrate this, having one of your students act 
out the part. It also helps to name each of these models after the 
main function that implements them - otherwise people might not get 
the distinction between them and REBOL as a whole.


There are some functions that only deal with the REBOL data model 
and don't really do anything with the data other than translate it 
from or to some concrete syntax. It is best to group these functions 
by the syntax they implement - the group that implements what people 
normally think of as the REBOL syntax is LOAD, SAVE and MOLD.


When teaching REBOL dialects I usually start with what I call the 
DO engine, what people normally think of as the REBOL language. DO 
is a stack machine like Forth, but it uses a prefix syntax to make 
it easier to use (by making DO dialect code more resemble that in 
other programming languages). DO also does a simple swapping hack 
to implement inline operators, which you will have to demonstrate 
so that your students will understand DO's operator precedence or 
lack thereof. DO always works on REBOL data: If you pass it a string 
or file that contains REBOL syntax code, DO will call LOAD to convert 
it to REBOL data - this is an important distinction to make so that 
your students can distinguish between the data and the processor 
of that data. There are many functions that depend on DO to interpret 
their blocks of "code", such as IF, WHILE, FOR, etc. It is important 
to note that these are just functions, not "syntax". DO's only syntax 
is the predefined operators that DO swaps (these are effectively 
keywords because of how the swap is implemented), the word/set-word/get-word 
difference, the interpretation of paths and the precedence of parens. 
Everything else is a function.


There is also the PARSE engine, a rule-based recursive-decent parser 
with limited backtracking, that implements three dialects (simple 
parse, string parse and block parse). These dialects actually have 
keywords, as well as an entirely different execution model. Also, 
there is the View engine, which implements the LAYOUT and DRAW dialects.


Refering to these engines as state machines isn't helpful, because 
the distinctions between their execution models, or whether they 
even have execution models, is important for distinguishing between 
them. You need to use the higher-level terms like stack machine, 
composition engine and such.

I hope this helps!

If I can throw my two cents here. Terry is right to complain, because 
you can feel he cares, it's not destructive criticism. Pekr is saying 
he's a realist, but to me he sounds more like a dreamer (no offense).Flash 
is a Virtual Machine that lives in the browser. Rebol is a VM that 
lives on several OSes. Flash VM is present on 99% of the browsers. 
Rebol VM is not present  on browsers (plugin doesn't count because 
last time I tried it wouldn't install, and last version is more than 
a year old), and it is present on OSes of a small number of creative 
developers and hobbyists. If I had to develop a commercial app for 
the web, Flash and Flex give me extensive documentation, and a whole 
framework. Rebol can't compete with Adobe, and should not. Last week, 
I developed a GUI in Rebol and Rebgui that would have taken me four 
times longer in any other graphical toolkit, and I had a knack at 
it. But this app is for internal use. Rebol is a great language, 
and I would like to see it evolve as a computer language, not as 
a throw it all in kind of gizmo. It should go Open Source, because 
RT doesn't have the means to provide versions for all platforms. 
Where is the rebol for NetBSD? Last version is 2001. If RT hasn't 
the resources, let the developers do it. I want to run rebol on an 
internet tablet. I had wanted to run rebol on a palm (not anymore 
because Palm is deas, sort of). But the Nokia tablet run debian linux. 
There is no reason for the unabailability of rebol. It is just a 
matter of building it and packaging it. Who has the time for this? 
Plenty of people, they're just not at RT, because there people are 
busy with more important things (like developing the product).

eats 45% here... show eats a lot on my machine for some reason

Well finding an example is simple: Just convert to stack code and 
figure out when the stack would be used more than one deep between 
ops. That means more than one temp var. What we get for going to 
a register machine in a stack language :)


This would all be solved by a built-in USE directive with literal 
blocks that acts like USE in REBOL except only binding at rebcode 
creation time. It could be implemented as a built-in rewrite rule, 
changing the temporary variables to local variables, renaming if 
necessary. This rewrite would be done after the user-defined rewrites 
were done, but before the binding to the opcodes.


Let me think about how this could be implemented - I am late for 
a class.

Carl (or Gabriele), is that formula you gave for LOG-2 the way it 
is implemented in the LOG-2 native? I thought a binary logarithm 
would have a more efficient implementation on a binary machine.

On a binary machine, wouldn't log-e and log-10 be implemented on 
a lower level on top of log-2, instead of the other way around?

On a binary machine, wouldn't log-e and log-10 be implemented on 
a lower level on top of log-2, instead of the other way around?
 not exactly, it is a kind of a "mix" AFAICT

petr: PARSE is probably going to be much faster than rebcode for 
something like that, IMHO. after all, PARSE is a specialized virtual 
machine.

Funny enough, I will be posting soon two articles: "Why I don't use 
the Mac" and "Why I don't use Linux"  and I was going to open this 
up to everyone to do battle with me on each point.  The idea being 
that all can learn from this and make the move to the machine they 
like best.  For some people they might read one of the articles and 
say "those five things don't matter to me, so I'm going to buy a 
Mac now" 


For others, it will serve as a thermometer of when it is worth going 
to Mac or Linux.

Terry, I think computing is mature enough to have machines for different 
purposes, games machines, media machines and work machines. Most 
households I know have a least two on that list so far and are heading 
for the 3rd. Currently the pendulum is swinging away from "one machine 
to rule them all".

I've been telling people foy years to get a machine for work and 
a machine to trash for games etc.

Because if they call me (as they often do) and say "I've broken my 
only computer by downloading a game and now I can't get it to work 
and I've got to do something important" they get zero sympathy and 
I'm pretty dis-inclined to lend a hand in fixing their crisis.

Gaining root access to a Mac is 'easy pickings', according to an 
individual who won an OS X hacking challenge last month by gaining 
root control of a machine using an unpublished security vulnerability. 
On February 22, a Sweden-based Mac enthusiast set his Mac Mini as 
a server and invited hackers to break through the computer's security 
and gain root control, which would allow the attacker to take charge 
of the computer and delete files and folders or install applications. 
Within hours of going live, the 'rm-my-mac' competition was over. 
The challenger posted this message on his Web site: "This sucks. 
Six hours later this poor little Mac was owned and this page got 
defaced".

That Mac article (from MS-owned ZDnet) has been widely discredited. 
From a follow up article on OSnews:


The ZDnet article, and almost all of the coverage of it, failed to 
mention a very critical point: anyone who wished it was given a local 
account on the machine (which could be accessed via ssh).


Original ZDnet article: http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/security/soa/Mac_OS_X_hacked_in_less_than_30_minutes/0,2000061744,39241748,00.htm
Follow up challenge: http://test.doit.wisc.edu/

what is so special on Mac x86 machine to run WinXP on it? It just 
does not make sense ...

the directory on my machine is \Program Files\Mozilla FireFox\plugins

Personally, I'd be very cautious to allow any third-party to have 
"trusted access" to my machine.


I'm the sort of person who turns off any type of automated updating.

You can also run a mail-server on the machine where you host the 
reblet, then send works.

And mail is critical IMHO. Its on account of the sender in the eyes 
of most people, even if one just fakes the from. If you can that 
from users machine, you have even the right headers.

obviously, the standard issues of machine redundancy will arise, 
but that is a good exercise for the later revisions of the system.

so one (actually several)  machines can be a controler and synchronise 
to others which can also locally change their states... and whatever 
they data can generate can be sent to any other machine, including 
the controlers... so you have ONE kernel to handle all aspects of 
your systems.  and its dead easy... and would interface directly 
within any other liquified systems like liquid GL, elixir, globs, 
or eventually GLASS.

Will "Mike, I started using Apache and rebol as cgi, this is not 
suited for performances as on every call to the cgi, a new instance 
of rebol is  initialized, run and closed.

I thought about using fastcgi, but never came to a working solution.
Now I use uniserve as main webserver, here some advantages:

-it is fast! On my local machine I get +- 600 req/sec for static 
pages and a max of 160req/sec for dynamic rsp pages

-it is written in rebol, I could easly(less than 10 lines code) add 
a rewrite engine

-child process are persistent, this mean you can keep state of your 
web applications, implement caching, keep a pool of connection to 
databases open (in apache + rebol/cgi you'd have to open and close 
the connection for every request)
-it is written by Dock whom I may be the biggest fan ;-)

btw I'm running an unreleased version (have bought commercial support) 
 that support http 1.1, stuff like If-Modified etc..

If you have more specific questions, I'll be glad to try and answer."

Doc,  I appreciate your time / work on this.  Just so I understand.... 
are you saying that the solution you would implement would only run 
on a Win machine and that solutions that run on other machines are 
not feasible  ... because they are basically cumbersome and unreliable? 
 e.g. http://drupal.org/node/44718And are schemes like NTLM Authorization 
Proxy Server unworkable?  refer http://www.geocities.com/rozmanov/ntlm/
    I can't see using Cheyenne in a work environment  unless it supports 
NTLM.