World: r4wp

Built with GCC 4.3.2:

17-Dec-2012/0:03:50+1:00 2.101.0.4.2 Total: 4333 Succeeded: 3950 
Test failures: 53 Crashes: 10 Dialect failures: 0 Skipped: 330

Built with GCC 4.7.2:

17-Dec-2012/0:03:45+1:00 2.101.0.4.4 Total: 4333 Succeeded: 3948 
Test failures: 55 Crashes: 10 Dialect failures: 0 Skipped: 33

The round testcases.

17-Dec-2012/0:03:50+1:00 2.101.0.4.2 Total: 4333 Succeeded: 3950 
Test failures: 53 Crashes: 10 Dialect failures: 0 Skipped: 330
 - hmm, that total is not correct

Should be 4343

(the total is simply the sum of the numbers)

 Total: 
 succeeded + test-failures + crashes + dialect-failures
				+ skipped

(that line is from %test-framework.r)

Carl merged my update almost immediately

Good timing :)

What about the total, Andreas? That is suspicious...

(never experienced that here)

Is carl going to spring an R3 web chat on us? The last message in 
chat:
#8073: post from Carl 26-Nov:

Yes, the web interface is also working. Top level is a bit slow, 
but other links
 seem to respond ok.

I noticed he didn't answer in the blog when I asked about chat being 
open sourced. Could he be planning to take it commercial?

He's just talking about the existing mobile web interface, after 
ignoring it until now

yeah, I see that now - misread the previous post

Is anyone working on R3 for Android/iOS?

Noone yet who has announced it, but Carl threw out the challenge 
:)

Hey, I have a couple significant changes to make to TRANSCODE. Can 
all interested parties please review http://issue.cc/r3/1915and 
http://issue.cc/r3/1916and comment what you think? AFIAK I have 
used TRANSCODE more than anyone else, but we're at the point where 
more opinions are needed. It's low-level, so most people won't be 
affected by this.

They're not syntax changes, they're changes in its external behavior.

How much of a bounty is it worth to compele the Android port, with 
GUI?

I am very interested in a combined iOS/Android project.  Something 
a little more extensive than just a port.  Are you guys interested?

Essentially we need a consistent GUI  SDK that will create apps for 
both platforms..

Porting the GUI to a new platform is a lot of work

Yes.  I realize that.  Does having R3 on iOS make sense without a 
GUI?

About as much as on the other platforms, I guess

How would you create an App without a GUI?

Not sure how much Android and iOS could be combined, more than REBOL 
is already cross-platform

You could write the GUI in the native technology, and do the core 
app in an embedded R3 library

Useless to us.  We'll stick with Javascript/HTML/CSS/Java/JSON if 
we can't use a REBOL dialect for GUI's.

Then you need two full ports: one to Android and one to iOS

Sounds like it.

What is the state of the GUI on R3?

Win32 only. Draw in the /View builds. R3-GUI from Saphirion on top 
of that.

It crashes a lot, but Saphirion can start fixing it now

What is Saphirion?  Who writes the code?

Robert's company in Switzerland

Saphirion is Robert Muench's company, who sell R2- and R3-based apps.

Afaik R3 GUI is workably stable. Saphirion has a non-trivial app 
running with it.

(http://development.saphirion.com/)

You have to circumvent fifty crash cases

Will take a look.  I am acquainted with Robert.I am a learning scientist 
(just finishing my PhD).

We write apps for classroom networks of handheld devices.  We used 
TI-83/84 calcs for years.  Just moved over to iOS.  Software bloat 
and complexity is killing us.

Bolek, Cyphre, Henrik, Ladislav, Robert (alphabetically) are working 
on it.

(Afaik)

That's a really good team.  I can see why they are on top of the 
OS release of R3.

There's quite a few more working with OS release :) New faces, even.

We often need to modify code within hours (between class sessions). 
 Not even close to happening on iOS so far.

I can imagine

Btw, it's 10 crashes in the testsuite. ~50 non-crashing test failures.

Would a bounty help get R3 on Android?

If we could encap R3 apps we might have a chance to continue this 
stream of research.