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[!REBOL3] General discussion about REBOL 3

Ladislav
16-Dec-2012
[69]
aha, let me check
Andreas
16-Dec-2012
[70]
I think the additional guess is another real regression on the machine 
I'm using. But let me find out which test is newly crashing.
Ladislav
16-Dec-2012
[71]
No, that is not how it works
Andreas
16-Dec-2012
[72]
It just counts the #r3crash?
Ladislav
16-Dec-2012
[73x3]
It just counts the #r3crash - 7 times and #test3crash - 3 times
(in my file)
strange
Andreas
16-Dec-2012
[76]
Well, then it is definitely my set of tests.
Ladislav
16-Dec-2012
[77]
#r3crash is supposed to crash the interpreter, #test3crash is suppossed 
to crash the test framework
Andreas
16-Dec-2012
[78x2]
Ah, correct. I accidentally had an additional test copied over.
Built with GCC 4.3.2:

17-Dec-2012/0:03:50+1:00 2.101.0.4.2 Total: 4333 Succeeded: 3950 
Test failures: 53 Crashes: 10 Dialect failures: 0 Skipped: 330

Built with GCC 4.7.2:

17-Dec-2012/0:03:45+1:00 2.101.0.4.4 Total: 4333 Succeeded: 3948 
Test failures: 55 Crashes: 10 Dialect failures: 0 Skipped: 33

The round testcases.
Ladislav
16-Dec-2012
[80x6]
17-Dec-2012/0:03:50+1:00 2.101.0.4.2 Total: 4333 Succeeded: 3950 
Test failures: 53 Crashes: 10 Dialect failures: 0 Skipped: 330
 - hmm, that total is not correct
Should be 4343
(the total is simply the sum of the numbers)
 Total: 
 succeeded + test-failures + crashes + dialect-failures
				+ skipped
(that line is from %test-framework.r)
Carl merged my update almost immediately
Andreas
16-Dec-2012
[86]
Good timing :)
Ladislav
16-Dec-2012
[87x2]
What about the total, Andreas? That is suspicious...
(never experienced that here)
AdrianS
16-Dec-2012
[89x2]
Is carl going to spring an R3 web chat on us? The last message in 
chat:
#8073: post from Carl 26-Nov:

Yes, the web interface is also working. Top level is a bit slow, 
but other links
 seem to respond ok.
I noticed he didn't answer in the blog when I asked about chat being 
open sourced. Could he be planning to take it commercial?
Kaj
16-Dec-2012
[91]
He's just talking about the existing mobile web interface, after 
ignoring it until now
AdrianS
16-Dec-2012
[92]
yeah, I see that now - misread the previous post
NickA
17-Dec-2012
[93]
Is anyone working on R3 for Android/iOS?
BrianH
17-Dec-2012
[94x3]
Noone yet who has announced it, but Carl threw out the challenge 
:)
Hey, I have a couple significant changes to make to TRANSCODE. Can 
all interested parties please review http://issue.cc/r3/1915and 
http://issue.cc/r3/1916and comment what you think? AFIAK I have 
used TRANSCODE more than anyone else, but we're at the point where 
more opinions are needed. It's low-level, so most people won't be 
affected by this.
They're not syntax changes, they're changes in its external behavior.
NickA
17-Dec-2012
[97]
How much of a bounty is it worth to compele the Android port, with 
GUI?
Scot
17-Dec-2012
[98x2]
I am very interested in a combined iOS/Android project.  Something 
a little more extensive than just a port.  Are you guys interested?
Essentially we need a consistent GUI  SDK that will create apps for 
both platforms..
Kaj
17-Dec-2012
[100]
Porting the GUI to a new platform is a lot of work
Scot
17-Dec-2012
[101]
Yes.  I realize that.  Does having R3 on iOS make sense without a 
GUI?
Kaj
17-Dec-2012
[102]
About as much as on the other platforms, I guess
Scot
17-Dec-2012
[103]
How would you create an App without a GUI?
Kaj
17-Dec-2012
[104x2]
Not sure how much Android and iOS could be combined, more than REBOL 
is already cross-platform
You could write the GUI in the native technology, and do the core 
app in an embedded R3 library
Scot
17-Dec-2012
[106]
Useless to us.  We'll stick with Javascript/HTML/CSS/Java/JSON if 
we can't use a REBOL dialect for GUI's.
Kaj
17-Dec-2012
[107]
Then you need two full ports: one to Android and one to iOS
Scot
17-Dec-2012
[108x2]
Sounds like it.
What is the state of the GUI on R3?
Andreas
17-Dec-2012
[110]
Win32 only. Draw in the /View builds. R3-GUI from Saphirion on top 
of that.
Kaj
17-Dec-2012
[111]
It crashes a lot, but Saphirion can start fixing it now
Scot
17-Dec-2012
[112]
What is Saphirion?  Who writes the code?
Kaj
17-Dec-2012
[113]
Robert's company in Switzerland
Andreas
17-Dec-2012
[114x3]
Saphirion is Robert Muench's company, who sell R2- and R3-based apps.
Afaik R3 GUI is workably stable. Saphirion has a non-trivial app 
running with it.
(http://development.saphirion.com/)
Kaj
17-Dec-2012
[117]
You have to circumvent fifty crash cases
Scot
17-Dec-2012
[118]
Will take a look.  I am acquainted with Robert.I am a learning scientist 
(just finishing my PhD).