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Pekr 9-Jul-2013 [9390x3] | DocKimbel - so I tried it, and yes, it works ... |
As for news channels - if there is anything new, and my time and skills permit, I do post. It is a pity, it is not reposted to your blog, it looks really dated with latest 0.3.2 Repl release :-( I find it a bad strategy, the project seems a bit stalled, at least Git get propagated there .... | |
as for Red ML, AFAIK, I am not there ... Any activity there? | |
DocKimbel 9-Jul-2013 [9393] | Paul: no much usable info there it seems. What I really need is a PDB file specification. |
Pekr 9-Jul-2013 [9394] | Doc - I noticed Carl mentioned he is getting BBB for his HW purposes. When you will try to hook him into Red, just mention, that we are already there too :-) |
DocKimbel 9-Jul-2013 [9395x2] | There are Twitter and Github for day to day news. |
Pekr: will do. ;-) | |
Pekr 9-Jul-2013 [9397] | FB has component to display news, twitter too. As for FB, I would not put it into your website, but maybe twitter could be corrected |
DocKimbel 9-Jul-2013 [9398] | If you think about the Twitter plugins on Blogger, they seem all dead. Anyway, I would be glad to get rid of Blogger and switch to something else, Blogger is horribly bad and outdated. |
Pekr 9-Jul-2013 [9399x2] | Well, it works, no? Not sure what other blogging sites/domains are available. Twitter kind of removed possibility to freely display content via JS code. You can do it, but inside your twitter profile, in Settings/Widgets, you can create new display widget. But customisation/design options are limited - basically dark/bright theme, number of tweets, some other formatting, and that's it. It spits out a little code you add to your site, and done ... maybe worth the effort, dunno - not sure about minimal width though - more info here https://dev.twitter.com/docs/embedded-timelines |
the question is, if you want to loose your time with such stuff ..... | |
DocKimbel 9-Jul-2013 [9401x3] | I tried it once IIRC, and couldn't use it for Red site as it was requiring too much horizontal space. |
I certainly don't want to loose my time with that, but I need anyway to search for an alternative in order to be ready to switch when the right time comes. | |
Pekr: if you don't have a Twitter account, it would be a good idea to make one and post news about the Rebol and Red world from there. We need a stronger presence on Twitter. | |
Pekr 9-Jul-2013 [9404x5] | I have 3 twitter account :-) |
I just did not know, that I could post to anyone's other account ... | |
Tried to write a tweet on Red Lang, it disappeared, maybe waiting for your approval? You can eventually remove it, not good at referring to other sites, etc. | |
ah, it was posted to my twee channel ... sucks ... | |
OK, so tweeted with the reference to #BeagleBoneBlack and #Red_lang ... feel free to retweet ... | |
DocKimbel 9-Jul-2013 [9409] | You should rather use @red_lang, so it will appear directly. With a simple hashtag, I won't notice it unless I search for it. |
Pekr 9-Jul-2013 [9410x3] | ok, will tweet again ... |
well, should I let there even @BeagleBoneBlack? Will not the other community mind? | |
OK, you already retweeted, so I will let it be like it is for now ... | |
Kaj 9-Jul-2013 [9413] | I suppose they will like having another programming language |
DocKimbel 9-Jul-2013 [9414x5] | BTW, Red is not present on Wikipedia list of programming languages. |
BTW, Red is not present on Wikipedia list of programming languages. | |
Sorry for the double post, I'm on 3G in a bus. ;-) | |
I'm travelling to the capital to get my plane tomorrow morning for Montreal (wih a short stop in Paris). | |
Also the Red wikipedia page could be updated. It could be more informative. Anyone to improve it? | |
Pekr 9-Jul-2013 [9419x2] | Red was there! I added it, and even later, someone reported, that it can be found there. |
Red - well, what list are you talking about? I checked http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programming_languages and it is present there .... | |
Kaj 9-Jul-2013 [9421] | Perhaps the Montenegran version :-) |
Maxim 9-Jul-2013 [9422] | its not there in the French version. |
AdrianS 9-Jul-2013 [9423x2] | Nenad, is this any use or is it outdated? http://www.godevtool.com/Other/pdb.htm |
also this - both articles reference the book "Undocumented Windows 2000 Secrets: A Programmer's Cookbook": http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=22685 | |
DocKimbel 9-Jul-2013 [9425x3] | Pekr: indeed, I wonder how did I miss it... |
Kaj: good idea, I'll make a montenegrin version of that page, with *only* Red! ;-) | |
AdrianS: thanks, it's reverse-engineered, so, maybe not fully accurate and complete, but it looks like a good start. | |
Pekr 9-Jul-2013 [9428] | Doc - not sure about debugging driver priority, but bear in mind, that ppl are waiting for networking and other IO ... e.g. Maarten was asking today, when it comes. I think that we need more feature complete Red ASAP ... |
DocKimbel 9-Jul-2013 [9429] | debugging driver priority Not sure if you're mixing things here or not. First PDB has nothing to do with drivers, it's a general-debugging help for Red and Red/System. Second, I never said that drivers or PDB support was prioritary. If I worked on adding driver support for Windows, it was just to help Kaj and Bo use Red in their project, nothing else. The priorities are clear, but I won't be able to resume on them until I get back from Montréal. |
PeterWood 9-Jul-2013 [9430] | I'll add the /deep to %build-arm-tests.r Pekr (Runnable dir is required and built by quick-test.r) I'll also suspend the function tests from the Arm build. |
Pekr 9-Jul-2013 [9431] | Yes, I mixed it incorrectly. Priorities are surely your call, I am just reporting what I can anticipate from ppl asking question here or there, and the message is - more complete Red. So - looking forward to resumed Red development ... |
DocKimbel 9-Jul-2013 [9432x2] | I've just lost a long post I was typing here because my finger ripped on the small laptop keyboard from a CTRL-S to CTRL-Q...who the hell got the bright idea to put the app killing (no confirm prompt) key close to the post sending key?...Will have a few words with Carl about ergonomy in AltME. ;-) |
Peter: no need to disable function tests, I've already commented the few tests related to #420 that were causing the crashings. | |
Paul 9-Jul-2013 [9434] | Sorry Doc on the pdb thing. I don't think your going to find a pdb file format. Closest I seen was this that someone may have been trying to reverse engineer https://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=22685. |
DocKimbel 9-Jul-2013 [9435] | Paul: thanks, AdrianS posted a similar link above. Yes, it seems that it's not documented. |
Kaj 9-Jul-2013 [9436x2] | Well, MS not wanting people to debug their software explains a lot |
With Red, you'll be able to debug your programs on the other platforms, before running them on Windows | |
Kaj 10-Jul-2013 [9438x2] | I see the WinDLL and DarwinSO targets in config.r are now uncommented, but LinSO is stil commented out. How do they relate to the -dlib compiler parameter now? |
Wouldn't it be possible to add MSDOS-ARM and Darwin-ARM targets right now, to start testing on Windows Phone and iOS? | |
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