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Kaj 31-Jan-2013 [5412x2] | However, it's not yet supported for functions defined by #import, so if you need that, you have to write a wrapper function |
Also, in some places you have to cast the function pointer to an integer to pass it | |
Rebolek 31-Jan-2013 [5414] | Ok, thanks. I unfortunatelly hadn't chance to check Red/System in last few months. I'm very glad it can be done, I have to find some time for Red/System again. |
Kaj 31-Jan-2013 [5415] | Since Red needed jump tables, you can also go the other way around, and cast an integer/pointer to a function, then call it |
Kaj 1-Feb-2013 [5416x2] | Here's the code for the Red GUI IDE: |
Red [] #include %GTK/GTK.red view/title [ text: area button "Do" [ unless any [ none? script: get-area-text text empty? script empty? code: load script unset? result: do code ][ prin "== " probe result ] ] button "View" [ all [ script: get-area-text text not empty? script not empty? code: load script view code ] ] button "Quit" close ] "Red GTK+ IDE" | |
DocKimbel 1-Feb-2013 [5418] | Nice! It's amazing how fast you came up with a VID-like dialect for Red. |
Kaj 1-Feb-2013 [5419x3] | Well, most of the work is in the Red/System layer that I did more than a year ago |
Same for the other bindings | |
Plus, when putting a Red layer on top of it, you're staying within Red and Red/System, so you're on known terrain. Starting a new binding in Red/System throws you into the abyss of the external library's C code, headers and idiosyncracies, and documentation that may or may not exist or be correct | |
GrahamC 1-Feb-2013 [5422] | What can you do for Android where this is no gtk? |
Kaj 1-Feb-2013 [5423] | It requires a completely extra set of bindings, including to the Java VM and the GUI. We're thinking about it |
Bo 4-Feb-2013 [5424] | OK. Say I have a fresh Windows PC and I want to start coding in Red/System for the target of Raspberry Pi. Help me understand what I need to do. Here is what I assume needs to be done, but I may be wrong. 1. Download R2, I assume. Any particular version? 2. Download Red/System compiler. From where? 3. Write the program on the PC. 4. Compile it with Red/System on the PC, but for the Raspberry Pi target. Is that just a setting somewhere? 5. Move the compiled file to the Raspberry Pi and execute it. |
Andreas 4-Feb-2013 [5425x2] | The following should have you covered: https://github.com/dockimbel/Red#readme |
Target for Raspberry Pi is "Linux-ARM". | |
Bo 4-Feb-2013 [5427] | That's exactly what I was looking for. It would be great if that was prominently linked from red-lang.org. :-) |
Kaj 4-Feb-2013 [5428] | It is |
Arnold 4-Feb-2013 [5429] | View for windows, there is a helper script redcompiler.r on rebol.org to facilitate (cross-)compiling |
DocKimbel 5-Feb-2013 [5430] | Last week Red presentation in The Netherlands, remastered by HostileFork: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjPKj0_HBTY |
Arnold 5-Feb-2013 [5431x2] | Bas is still couching the presentation together :) |
coughing not couching ;) | |
Kaj 5-Feb-2013 [5433] | I implemented compose/deep. With the latest Red fixes, it works now |
Kaj 6-Feb-2013 [5434] | Is FOREVER not implemented in Red? |
Bo 6-Feb-2013 [5435x4] | If I wanted to access JPG pixel data in Red/System, is there an easy way to do that? |
As the youngsters say, EPIC! I just compiled and ran my first Red/System program on the Raspberry Pi running Arch Linux. | |
But I still want to figure out how to access JPG pixel data. :-) | |
Reading the Red/System Documentation on red-lang.org, I don't see any way to access files. IIRC, someone said that wasn't implemented yet? | |
Pekr 7-Feb-2013 [5439] | Bo - R/S is low level - mostly a wrapper to C to enable Red like syntax. It will not contain stuff to open files and do more advanced things imo, unless you link to some library and create a wrapper for such a purpose. I am too eagerly waiting for Red to get more advanced stuff. I think, that once Doc finishes the interpreter stuff ec., he is back to objects/ports, and then networking/files IO will come and more fun begins :-) |
DocKimbel 7-Feb-2013 [5440x2] | FOREVER: not yet supported by the compiler. |
mostly a wrapper to C Red/System doesn't wrap C, it replaces it. ;-) | |
Pekr 7-Feb-2013 [5442] | :-) |
Kaj 7-Feb-2013 [5443x11] | Congrats, Bo |
Feels good, doesn't it? :-) | |
File I/O is available for Red/System in the C library binding: | |
http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-C-library/dir?ci=tip | |
There's also standard input for Red there. Further, there's a wrapper for full-file I/O for both Red and Red/System that includes network I/O through the cURL binding: | |
http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-common/dir?ci=tip | |
This gets you reading and writing files, but you have to do any decoding yourself. So for reading JPEG data, you would probably write a binding to LibJPEG | |
If it doesn't need to be as specific as JPEG, you could write a binding to some wrapper library that supports multiple formats. For example, a simple BMP loading function is available for Red/System in the SDL binding: | |
http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-SDL/dir?ci=tip | |
An example of loading an image is here in PeterPaint: | |
http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-SDL/dir?ci=tip&name=examples | |
Pekr 7-Feb-2013 [5454x2] | or xnview command line - then you just need a CALL .... |
ah, wrong, I thought that you just need an image info, not actually an access to the bitmap data ... | |
Kaj 7-Feb-2013 [5456x2] | There's also a basic binding to image loading in GDK, so that would load you all image types that GDK supports, including JPEG: |
http://red.esperconsultancy.nl/Red-GTK/dir?ci=tip | |
Bo 7-Feb-2013 [5458x3] | GTK sounds like a winner. Thanks for all the tips, guys! |
For future reference, is it possible to use Red/System for commercial products? Are there any restrictions? | |
Also, does anyone have an idea of how fast Red/System code is compared to comparable C code? | |
BrianH 7-Feb-2013 [5461] | It's as fast as C core with the optimizer turned off, at least for now. |
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