World: r4wp

OK. It got me in trouble, though, because I used this statement in 
the Fibonacci computation:

print [
	"Fibonacci " parameter ": " fibonacci parameter  newline
	"Elapsed time: " subtract-time  now-time none  start  newline
	"Process time: "
		(to-float form-integer process-time) /
		to-float form-integer clocks-per-second  newline
]

In the C version I already noticed that I had to put the computation 
in front of the reporting, but I hadn't expected this, and certainly 
not in a language that looks like REBOL

Actually, the single pass nature of Red/System strengthened my assumption 
that the computation would be in natural order

We have a "chunked" compilation mode that could be used to re-order 
the code once generated, but I'm not sure it could work in such case. 
The best thing to do for now is to document it in the tracker.

Done

Thanks.

Doc - congrats to 0.2.5 release - nice to hear, that first alpha 
of Red can be here in few weeks, although it will not do much yet 
...

First alpha of Red in a few weeks?  Sounds great!

that's what Doc replied on his blog:


@Thomas: for the very first Red alpha, only memory management, basic 
datatypes and a few natives/actions. Ports and I/O will probably 
be added in following alpha versions, as PARSE. If we don't hit any 
walls, we should have it a few weeks, probably a month.

The first Red will probably have all the capabilities of Red/System, 
so I think it will be able to do quite a lot

Exciting news

http://development.syllable.org/news/2012-03-14-20-30-RedSystem-bindings-with-C-cURL-SDL-SQLite.html

Nice. Wil you push to OSNews? :-)

Already done

Maybe apart to C lib, you might mention in one sentence, that other 
big change for Red/S was addition of float support ...

It's in there

Implementing basic features for block! datatype support.
. RED - finally :-) How Btiffin says - go Doc, go! :-)

Does anyone know how to change a float into an integer or round a 
float to its nearest integer counterpart?

dunno, maybe via type casting? as integer! ... but not sure if it 
works for floats, or only pointers ...

http://static.red-lang.org/red-system-specs.html#section-4.9

The current partilal support for float does not support casting between 
float and integer datatypes

It seems float to integer is not allowed. Maybe some library call 
wrappers will be needed for that?

Support for converting between integer! and float!/float32! has not 
been implemented yet. The only way to achieve it right now is to 
rely on an external lib (libc?) or implement your own conversion 
routine in Red/System.

Yes, the C library binding can do that

FYI, I am making good progress on the Red runtime, but I had to start 
implementing the Red compiler earlier than planned, to be able to 
define more accurately the right runtime API that the compiler needs. 
So at the time that the runtime will be ready, I should have a first 
Red compiler partial implementation working.

Sounds logical to me

round-ceiling and round-floor in math.reds do rounding to integer, 
but they still return a float value

To convert to an integer value, you have to go through strings. You 
can use the format function in C-library.reds for that, but I see 
I haven't defined a shorter float wrapper yet

Doc - we are watching your progress via the Twitter messages, and 
looking into Github :-)

I've added some floating point convenience wrappers matching the 
other data types

This should work for conversion:

to-integer form-float

Note that the string returned by form-float should be freed

The other way around is already used in my Fibonacci and Mandelbrot 
time processing:

to-float form-integer

On Linux, you could also avoid going through strings and use lrint(3)/lrintf(3).

Is that GLibC specific?

ISO C 99

OK, that could be considered as a binding enhancement, then

Should work on anything except Windows.

Once the Red runtime is more fleshed out I'll see what is still useful 
to add in Red/System

Windows doesn't support C99?

Nope.

Sigh

I wrote a binding with the Evince document viewer for the Document 
Freedom Day tomorrow:

http://www.documentfreedomday.nl

I now have a GTK widget that can show PDF documents

That's great Kaj!

Wow, that's cool!

I cannot connect to the URL, it seems to timeout on every attempt.