World: r4wp

Enlightenment is very modular. The top two libraries are a widget 
set and a desktop environment and window manager, that you can choose 
to include or not

The widget set is my primary target, but I haven't got it to work 
yet

One could also just use the drawing library, which then seems to 
be about double the size of Cairo for example, but is much more intelligent

is that plain C, or C++? Btw - how does Cyphre wrap AGG, if AGG is 
said to be strict C++? Does he have to write any wrapper in C first? 
(He said he has AGG in a form of DLL for R2)

C. Rasterman dislikes C++

good guy then :-)

Yep. :-) The REBOL AGG engine is implemented in C++. You basically 
have to write the draw dialect interpreter in C++ to be able to use 
AGG or any of the other C++ engines

btw - I wonder if there would be some niche for the BlackBerry. They 
will switch to QNX, which is nice C. That would be like Amiga going 
back to QNX :-)

Enlightenment is like Amiga coming to Linux, and also other platforms 
these days

I don't think I've used Enlightenment in a decade. It was superfast 
at the time, but the UI was not so good. I'm not sure the UI itself 
is important for Enlightenment, but more the underpinnings?

I agree. The appearance is too geeky, but by the graphics geek kind. 
I want to build a more user friendly interface on it

15% ... getting there :)

I got the first Enlightenment example to run; so far just one of 
the included C examples from the Evas canvas library, on X11 on Syllable 
Server

screenshot?

Sorry, can't make them yet. I have no screenshot tool on Syllable 
Server, so I make them on Syllable Desktop, but I don't have Evas 
running there yet

Imagine a rectangular line with some colored squares in them :-)

got it

and no digital camera :)

Isn't "Syllable Server" just running plain X?

If I had, I would still have no time

Yes, as I said, I have it running on X. As far as I can see: it could 
also be using the SDL backend, which I'm trying to get to work

No xwd on Syllable Server then? No imagemagick either?

(`xwd -out shot.xwd -root -display :0.0` should get you a screenshot. 
Or `import -window root shot.png`, if you have imagemagick.)

I have ImageMagick installed from the GoboLinux layer

xwd is also there in X11

I made a shot.xwd, but how do I read that format?

import can't find libltdl.so.7

imagemagick can convert xwd's :)

gimp can read them

netpbm can convert them as well

`convert shot.xwd shot.png` (imagemagic)
`xwdtopnm < shot.xwd | pnmtopng > shot.png` (netpbm)

Installed a newer LibTool. import works now. Thanks

You're welcome :)

I suppose it can also target a single window?

You can pass a window ID or title to -window.

The title text as shown?

A bit annoying, but it basically works. Especially if you have simple 
window titles :)

Yes.

Cool, thanks

I don't think the Evas examples are very special, but I'll make a 
shot

http://web.syllable.org/images/screenshots/Workstation/0.4/Evas-examples-on-SyllableWorkstation.png

looks good ...it says workstation not server though?

Yes, Server is non-graphical. At least, it only has DirectFB and 
SDL built in, and no desktop. Workstation is Server plus X11 from 
a GoboLinux layer and the ROX desktop from ZeroInstall

I finally succeeded in compiling the Enlightenment widget set and 
desktop

Sounds like a major milestone.  Bring the next conference forward 
to show it off!

:-) It's only the first steps yet, that are guaranteed to work because 
it's on Linux. The major question is whether I can port it to Syllable 
Desktop

Here's the widget set:

http://web.syllable.org/images/screenshots/Workstation/0.4/Elementary-test-1-on-SyllableWorkstation.png

http://web.syllable.org/images/screenshots/Workstation/0.4/Elementary-test-2-on-SyllableWorkstation.png

I could live with that :)