World: r4wp

does not look like a rebol syntax :-)

Still, it is valid REBOL syntax. ;-)

Well, Rebol/Red headers are extensible. Is that really a problem 
to have a 'credit or 'licence field, and mention authors of particular 
components?

You have to make it visible to end users.

Then I am dumb - R2 does not allow being it a word, nor is it a function 
... so, what's that? Well, some tests, uh, surprised :-)

>> GET_BUFFER: [1 2 3 4 5]
== [1 2 3 4 5]
>> GET_BUFFER: [1 2 3 4 5](escape)
>> data: 4
== 4
>> GET_BUFFER(data)
== 4
>> GET_BUFFER/:data
== 4

As for end user visibility, I can imagine one common place to have 
it - Menu/About dialog, credits section. But, what about apps without 
the GUI, right?

It can be a CREDITS file distributed with your app.

>> [GET_BUFFER(data)]
== [GET_BUFFER (data)]

;-)

that's weird, imo REBOL should not allow that at all - confusing 
...

it's not different than [][][] vs. [] [] []

I bet Carl done it specifically to allow such syntactic construction 
for dialects without having to drop down to string! preprocessing.

...or maybe it's just an auto-corrective feature of LOAD that comes 
handy for dialects. ;-)

I've chosen that syntax to visually distinguish simple defines from 
macro with parameters. But you can write it with a space in between 
if you want, no problem.

So, in the context of Red/System, it's less confusing that way.

Pekr maybe try this instead of with 1 2 3 4 5 
>> GET_BUFFER: [a b c d e]
== [a b c d e]
>> data: 4
== 4
>> GET_BUFFER(data)
== 4
>> GET_BUFFER/:data  
== d
>> GET_BUFFER/(data)
== d

@Doc I want the trivial tasks not non-trivial ones ! I am not an 
expert.

I don't see currently any trivial task that could speed up the progress 
of Red, unfortunately, all the tasks in the Roadmap are non-trivial. 
If I stumble upon some non-coding task that can be outsourced, I 
will contact you.

Ah, there's maybe something that you could do: I need to port my 
current Red test script in Quick-Test (QT) form. I can send you the 
script (very very simple) and the expected unit tests format used 
by QT, you would just have to convert it and check if all tests are 
reported as passing in QT...it's not a big task, but you will save 
me some time for advancing on the code. Interested?

special group for posting small Red tasks?

Checklist

these are the chances to pull some aboard

Yeah, otherwise they will drown ;-)

The ticket system in Github could be used for storing tasks too (we 
would just need a new tag).

You would qualify for a free license for http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/overview
but the software is quite "big"

There are lot of online tools for software project management. Maybe 
picking one could help better organize Red's development...thanks 
for the suggestion, I will look into it.

how to get a free license for any of their listed products http://www.atlassian.com/software/views/open-source-license-request

And looks like they'll even host it for you gratis

DocKimbel, we're testing Trello at Saphirion right now. It seems 
to work pretty well.

The main feature that would be needed in such tool is close integration 
with a git repo or directly with github.

ok, Trello is probably not useful, unless there is a plugin.

https://marketplace.atlassian.com/plugins/com.atlassian.jira.plugins.bitbucket

Auto-sync Git and Mercurial repositories from Bitbucket and/or GitHub 

This add-on is turned on by default for Atlassian On-Demand customer

Are there any guides on how to use these various bindings for red/system?

Not really, but for the cURL binding you could refer to my documentation 
for the R3 binding:

http://rebol.esperconsultancy.nl

The 0MQ binding also has some documentation there

Actually, the 0MQ docs there include a guide for Red/System, but 
the cURL docs include programming documentation

There are also the materials from the DevCon:

http://devcon.esperconsultancy.nl

Including videos about Red installation and the bindings:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3926D5E4DBD8B360

More than I thought, really :-)

Guys, we will really, really, need something like: http://tour.golang.org
or http://tryruby.orgfor Red.


If someone is willing to start working on such tool, that would for 
sure greatly contribute to the success of Red. I have already bought 
the following domains for such kind of use:

- tryred.net
- redtutor.net
- red4.us
- red2.me

We could even already use Topaz for building it (maybe just adding 
a thin Red dialect on top of it?).

Agree something is needed ... there is no easy guide to get started

Graham: I was thinking it could be ready for end of year of beginning 
of next year. Currently Red is not for end users, and won't be for 
a while. Red/System could be used in production though, but I don't 
have time to write users docs or tutorials for it.

of beginning
 => "or beginning"

Don't we need to wait a bit for more functionality from red before 
writing user docs?

No, you can take REBOL as a model, all basic features will be identical.

We could then upgrade such docs later with Red's specific additions.