World: r4wp

Is it too early to report bugs on V.0.3.0 via GitHub ?

Kaj: I've answered in the tracker, should be just a couple of definitions 
missing (they are missing for Darwin too).

Bug reports: yes, too early, you can just post them here.

I've applied the fixes to master branch, see my last yellow message.

Tests are running fine on Windows with master branch. I've tested 
them successfully with linux/v0.3.0 too. Will tray again with linux/master.

Tests also seem broken on Linux.

This is the merge that seems to have caused the problem:

Schulz:Red peter$ git checkout master
Switched to branch 'master'
Schulz:Red peter$ git merge upstream/master
Updating 525097b..ffb1f68
Fast-forward

 red-system/compiler.r                           |   77 ++++++++++++++---------
 red-system/linker.r                             |    2 +-

 red-system/loader.r                             |   67 +++++++++++++++-----

 red-system/targets/IA-32.r                      |   33 ++++++++--
 red-system/targets/target-class.r               |   13 ++--
 red-system/tests/source/compiler/pointer-test.r |    4 +-
 6 files changed, 136 insertions(+), 60 deletions(-)

The output I'm seeing on both Linux and OS X is the same as on V0.3.0 
before you applied the patch.

The problem is on Linux. I prefer to handle it in the tracker because 
stuff gets lost here

Peter: I can reproduce the issue on Linux, I'm investigating it...

Thanks Nenad

Should be fixed now, the commit for the fix was missing in master 
branch.

I will add the missing definitions for MacOSX platform in a few minutes.

All tests pass on Linux and OS X after latest master branch commit. 
Thanks.

Good!

Kaj:does that change anything for your issue on Syllable Server?

For Git command-line users, a useful cheat sheet: 


http://jan-krueger.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/git-cheat-sheet.pdf

For those who are excited about what Doc is doing, please remember 
to continue donating.  He's devoting all his time and work to Red 
at this point.

Doc, you mentioned that the problem with Paypal is that they'll limit 
your total donation amount per year ... for now that works.  To avoid 
large wire fees for those who want to donate, perhaps you could set 
up a US bank account, and then wire money to your account in your 
country, after funds have collected.  If you need help, please let 
me know:  reverse "g r o  tod  z r a t i u g  ta  codmorf"

I want to make sure you stay well financed, so that you can continue 
to work without interuption.

Nick: thank you very much, I appreciate such help and "continue to 
work without interruption" is really all I desire. I'm afraid anyway 
that donation would not be enough with the current community size, 
so I will probably start searching for other ways of funding by the 
end of the year.

If you communicate clearly your financial needs, I'll do everything 
possible to help keep you funded.  An occassional update to your 
funding requirements would be appreciated.  I would appreciate being 
added to a regular email update, in case I can't keep up on AltMe. 
 I wonder if others who have donated on Paypal may be interested 
in an occassional update, so they can help when able/motivated.  
Your current progress is very motivating.  I hope that others who 
are watching feel the same way.

Has anyone here worked with OAuth and/or the etzy.com API in REBOL? 
 I'm currently looking through Christopher Ross-Gill's OAuth implementation 
for Twitter, and interested in writing a REBOL app using the etzy.com 
API.  I understand most of it, but don't get the "oauth_signature" 
spec.  Don't have much time for this, so would like to offer some 
$$$ for anyone able to instruct and or provide help implementing 
the etsy API.  Email reverse "g r o  tod  z r a t i u g  ta  codmorf"

oops, meant that for another group.  Sorry!

Doc, the new commits are in master, not in 0.3.0, so it can't effect 
the problem on Syllable Server

Kaj: ok, I will have a deeper look in mmap syscall later, I'm currently 
debugging the OS X version.

Nick: I'll try to do that.

Please remember we want to contribute but without a reasonable clue 
this is hard to do. (Besides the closed-source issue this is what 
Carl ran into when expecting others to contribute). Me and Github 
wil never become friends for example, I managed to get some source 
long ago but no clue how to update to the newest sources and github 
has informed me they do not wish to support their macosX tool for 
Leopard that I am running, nor remove the useless (?) check on OS 
number 10.5, and I am NOT updating my system and learning all the 
commandlines to upgrade etc is too much effort, (maybe someone can 
build a REBOL interface).

Kaj: I can reproduce a similar memory allocation error on OS X too, 
so I hope that fixing it there will fix it on Syllable too.

I don't think you should use syscalls. It's not the POSIX interface: 
that is implemented in the C library on Linux, and probably most 
other systems

http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/mmap.html

Note that you need to get the system page size with sysconf():

http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Memory_002dmapped-I_002fO.html

Ok, got Red working fine on OS X too.

Syscalls: given how much a programming language has to call OS services, 
I don't see why we shouldn't try to avoid an unnecessary layer. But 
I'm pragmatic, if we get more troubles than benefits, we'll adopt 
a more classical approach.

Also, syscalls usage gives you a smaller executable (smaller import 
section).

You won't want to use syscalls for memory management on Syllable 
Desktop, because they're very different. So you'll have to implement 
the POSIX C library wrapper for Syllable Desktop, anyway

sysconf:I guess it's the right time to add it.

We already use some C calls, so no problem for adding Syllable specific 
code for that.

NickA - it's impossible to setup a USA bank account without being 
there in person to do so.  I've tried ... you have to present your 
credentials in person.

Any Paypal limitations are set by the EU ?  I don't have an issue 
with Paypal here.

Yes, it's a EU limitation.

Are protocols going to be like R2 or R3 ?

Probably more like what they were intended to be in R3. (Does R3 
have anything besides HTTP support?)

No, I think Kaj produced a Curl binding for https

I did write a ftp, smtp and hylafax protocol for R3

Red should have a more "modern" set of schemes than the one provided 
by R2, though.

And imap, and a JDBC bridge

But they were just first passes waiting for Carl to have a look and 
give advice, which never came, so they never went past that stage

So, I hope the underlying support is there to rewrite these protocols 
easily!