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I was parsing your mdp docs to convert to epub and found some have 
authors or not, dates or not, tables were done differently etc

Robert, you've uploaded the reactors documentation ... but I was 
under the impression reactors have been removed!

So, shouldn't we just delete that reactor stuff?

MDP style: Well, we need a pretty printer ;-)

Reactors: I just packed everything on the docs dir we have as a start. 
So, yes, we need to sort it out, get rid of the old stuff etc. So 
feel free to delete it and send a pull-request.

And is there any point in uploading the html docs?  Since they have 
to be generated

No, as said I just used the docs dir and didn't went through it. 
Well, seems next time we prepare it a bit better.

Ok, I'll figure out how to send a pull request on these

As long as other people agree .. it would be painful for you to have 
to update the html docs each time the mdp ones are changed

This coult be done with a commit hook on our side, but yes, HTML 
is not needed.

Looks like a number of other docs are not there.

validation-proposal, dialog-system, gob-capture, save-state etc

or I just missed seeing where they are :(

Thanks for noting the blog update Petr. Nice to hear he's enjoying 
himself so much. Maybe we'll get him back into REBOL when he sees 
that he can build Roku stuff in Red.

Well, I wish him well too. OTOH he contradicts himself. He says, 
he is interested in Rebol, yet he is addicted in something completly 
else, not finding free time for rebolling. I hope you will meet him 
at Devcon, so that he gets excited about Rebol againt too :-)

I don't think it's contradictory. He focuses deeply on one thing 
at a time, and everything else is lucky to get any time at all. It's 
just that now, Roku is his focus.

OTOH, his work there may lead to new thoughts for REBOL and other 
languages targeted at small devices in a networked world.

It's a bit odd that his creation is so fantastic that he can't use 
it

Perhaps it was never designed to be use in memory constrained embedded 
devices

Perhaps it was never designed to be used?

I smell a troll

I smell excuses

I think that reason for not using R3 is not technology related. Carl 
even talked about it in the past, that - maybe one day. Imo the reason 
is two-three-fold - 1) RT's failure, to set up R3 in the wild, business 
wise 2) at the time Carl joined Roku, R3 was not open-sourced. 3) 
I also remember, that on R3 Chat, he asked about Gstreamer. So imo 
even a toolset problem - R3 lacking extensions to popular subsystems, 
and also risky situation - what if Carl would decide to leave the 
company? Who would work with his R3 code?

Agreed

Seems like I missed the chance to join the chat with Carl and you 
guys on StackOverflow, but I was in my dreams (or nightmare about 
autorelease). ;)

Well, you need to be prepared and have sufficient reputation on SO. 
 It took Carl nearly 45 minutes before he was able to speak!

It was somewhat frustrating for all of us waiting.

Any reason he doesn't wanna do such limited time chats here?

probably hasn't got altme installed

He said he would only use r3chat before .. but he says that the SO 
chat is very nice and usable from a browser

Yeah, I just remembered, he said something about being able to chat 
from any computer.

How hard can it be to create a terminal version of AltME? Well...

that is R3 chat

But is that usable with e.g. this world? If yes, then he could just 
use that and join a chat here, couldn't he?

not with this world

I think he's had world changing experience working at Roku :)

So
How hard can it be to create a terminal version of AltME? Well...

An event driven terminal??

No, an interface to this world, but from a text terminal. Like R3 
chat, but which actually work with AltME worlds.

If he did that, he could join this world from any computer.

perhaps he doesn't want to

fine.. so after 45min of waiting, what he said instead of a note, 
that SO chat is nice?

Well, I have mixed feelings ... Carl simply gave up on Rebol and 
its message imo ... felt strange: " I'm no longer in the mode of 
convincing the world about Rebol. I've learned a lot over the last 
couple years in the trenches." ..... later .... "So, I know really 
well now that Rebol is not for every developer.... but it would get 
more interest if R3+GUI was easy to download an get running on a 
variety of those devices on your list."

As for why he does not use R3 at Roku, he confirmed that it might 
be difficult to mix various IPs of several companies ....

@Pekr, do you think, that's the full story?

I don't know, what do you mean? Full story of what? Well, maybe I 
will say it arrogantly - but Carl faced the reality we all were facing 
in our companies - if your tool does not fit the company's toolset, 
you might be tolerated, if it is open sourced or free. I remember 
my issues with my boss, trying to convince him why should I buy /Command 
to get access to shell and ODBC, if other free tools can do it. And 
that was it - REBOL lived in isolation and Carl, joining Roku, found 
out about the outer world working under different conditions of reality 
:-)

So less of "mix various IPs".

I expect so, but that is just my speculation ....

I got the same feeling.

But you see, since Carl is the creator of REBOL and has access to 
the sources, the situation is different than with you and your boss.