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[Ann-Reply] Reply to Announce group

BrianH
27-Feb-2013
[1485x4]
Unless you worked for Qtask in 2008 and met me at the company meeting 
in December, then no. The only other people in the community who 
have met me in person are my own recruits. I've talked to Carl and 
Bo on the phone though.
(not recently though)
Right at the point when it became appropriate for me to go to devcons, 
they stopped holding them in USA and I stopped having the money to 
travel outside USA. So unless my financial situation changes, or 
someone sponsors me, or visits me, then noone will meet me
...in person (AltME flaked on me). I am working on improving my financials 
though.
james_nak
28-Feb-2013
[1489]
Robert and Cyphere - Thank you so much for the Android version!
Cyphre
28-Feb-2013
[1490x4]
James, you are welcome ;)
BTW Carl restarted the "R3 chat" server so you can just type: "chat" 
in the Android console and leave message here.
With the latest Android version it is nice to try type: HELP in the 
chat input prompt to see the BROWSE works nicely ;)
also you can type LB to get the messages content into browser but 
there is small glitch in the local file URL handling so you need 
to correct the URL string in the browser to see the messages. Will 
be fixed in next release.
Endo
28-Feb-2013
[1494]
That's cool! :)
NickA
28-Feb-2013
[1495x2]
I believe that R3 Chat would be the PERFECT solution for REBOL communications, 
if we could build a more mature HTML front end.  Will Carl release 
the source?
Or should the community work on reverse engineering and building 
our own drop-in chat solution?
AdrianS
28-Feb-2013
[1497x2]
It's been asked a few times already. He always ignores the question, 
it seems.
Almost looks deliberate.
NickA
28-Feb-2013
[1499]
I'd sponsor work on engineering a new chat system.
AdrianS
28-Feb-2013
[1500]
But I agree that a 'built-in' way to gather the community is key.
NickA
28-Feb-2013
[1501]
Copy what it does - it's not that complex.  Anyone wanna make a few 
extra bucks?
AdrianS
28-Feb-2013
[1502x2]
I think some people around here had volunteered with the condition 
of someone sponsoring the effort.
It seems a shame though, given that the code exists.
NickA
28-Feb-2013
[1504]
I'm past that now - R2 code exists, but we'll never get it.  Let's 
move on and make all new contributions permanent.
AdrianS
28-Feb-2013
[1505]
Maybe BrianH would consider this. R3 could be fixed up as needed 
along the way.
NickA
28-Feb-2013
[1506x2]
How much do we need to get chat going?
Money, I mean.
AdrianS
28-Feb-2013
[1508x2]
I guess it depends on the specs.
What already existed in R3 chat?
NickA
28-Feb-2013
[1510x2]
http://www.rebol.com/r3/chat.r
That's what we see with "source chat" in R3
AdrianS
28-Feb-2013
[1512x4]
The thing is that a more widely useful chat/collaboration feature 
implies a very good UI. That's not something that we have too many 
people capable of at the moment.
That is just the front end.
Nick, did you see my post here of a few days ago on Algodoo?
There's a reason for me asking...
NickA
28-Feb-2013
[1516x3]
Yep, I looked at it briefly.  Definitely a cool addition to the sorts 
of "modern" things Doc and other have been looking at.
REBOL and Red needs any sort of "sparkle" possible to make people 
take a look.
What's your reason?
AdrianS
28-Feb-2013
[1519x4]
Well, my greater point with it is its involvement in education. Your 
chat just now, with Scot and James, made me think some more about 
it.
They, Algoryx, already seem to have a pretty good foothold in education.
Promoting Rebol to them, along with a chat/collaboration feature, 
just makes sense, both for them and for Rebol.
or Red for that matter, but it's not quite there yet.
NickA
28-Feb-2013
[1523]
You should take a look at what Scot has been saying tonight...
AdrianS
28-Feb-2013
[1524x2]
I'm thinking that maybe approaching them with the benefits of using 
Rebol as the buil-in scripting language with the possibility of sponsoring 
the chat/collaborative features, might be attractive.
I read all that. It's what made me think this is a good idea, even 
more than before.
james_nak
28-Feb-2013
[1526x2]
From what I have observed, and what Scot was saying, is that we need 
something that is already built but which allows educators to educate.
The number of teachers I know that actually can code is quite small.
NickA
28-Feb-2013
[1528]
That's Scot's idea, but attracting more people to writing REBOL code, 
in any way, is a good thing.
james_nak
28-Feb-2013
[1529]
Yes, I agree.
NickA
28-Feb-2013
[1530]
I like the idea of Algodoo, just because it's got some "flashy"ness
AdrianS
28-Feb-2013
[1531x2]
If you see the amount of scripting that's been done for Algodoo, 
you'd be impressed - and that language has nowhere near Rebol's strengths.
So, what I'm saying is that given a stimulating environment, like 
Algodoo, for example, people will code quite a lot.
NickA
28-Feb-2013
[1533]
Is it possible to integrate REBOL as a scripting language, without 
too much trouble?
AdrianS
28-Feb-2013
[1534]
Couldn't tell you, but in an indirect way, I would think that Rebol 
would be easier to do than quite a few other languages. This is because 
the current scripting language, Thyme, is very much Lua-like.