World: r3wp
[World] For discussion of World language
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Geomol 2-Dec-2011 [250] | About range!, I haven't thought of what you describe. We can talk more about it, when you're able to try World. |
Maxim 2-Dec-2011 [251x2] | btw, I really like the call-by-word idea you show in countdown: 2 |
I think the range datatype should be tweaked a little: block/4-3 should return. == [d c] otherwise it becomes mightily confusing, since as you have it now, when going backwards, its 0 based and going forwards its 1 based. also, /4-4 and /4-3 shoudn't return blocks of the same length, its almost impossible to compute ranges since we'll have to add IF to know if the start and end are the same, and then decrement them by 2 instead of one, for example... pretty odd. | |
Gregg 3-Dec-2011 [253] | I'm not sure about that either Max. We'll let John catch his breath and he may have a reason. |
Geomol 4-Dec-2011 [254] | World alpha has been released. Who's the first one to successfully run a test? |
james_nak 4-Dec-2011 [255] | Well, I ran the test and just created a function. I love the automatic quotes by the way. |
Pekr 4-Dec-2011 [256] | I just renamed to exe, tried to run from Total Commander, and got the following error: The NTVDM CPU has encountered an illegal instruction .... |
Geomol 4-Dec-2011 [257] | Ok. Others got the same error? Anyone has an idea why? |
Sunanda 4-Dec-2011 [258] | Test m Both loook good! |
james_nak 4-Dec-2011 [259] | Re: naming convention from ann-reply You could use the same names as they are now: world_linux.xxx and then suggest the user can/should rename his version as world.xxx. That way a person can get going immediately without that step if he wants to. |
Geomol 4-Dec-2011 [260] | Ok, suggestion noted. I'll think about it and maybe change it later. |
Robert 4-Dec-2011 [261] | World should accept REBOL [] as header to run R2, R3 scripts through it without editing these. |
Geomol 4-Dec-2011 [262] | First let's see, how many REBOL scripts will actually run. I assume, a lot of work is needed in %rebol.w . You guys are welcome to contribute. Maybe we need a project for that!? |
james_nak 4-Dec-2011 [263x2] | Pekr, maybe this will help: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314106 with that error. |
Geomol, interesting. I can execute the mandelbrot.w but not the cmandelbrot.w w> cmandelbrot ** Error: cmandelbrot has no value ** Near: cmandelbrot | |
Geomol 4-Dec-2011 [265x2] | w> do %test/cmandelbrot.w |
I don't think, there is a cmandelbrot function. | |
james_nak 4-Dec-2011 [267x2] | My bad. I was thrown off by the way the original "test" worked. |
I thought you could simply type the name of the file. :-) | |
Geomol 4-Dec-2011 [269x4] | :) Look at the bottom of the %cortex.w file. You'll see the test function and the m function. I just include them for now, because I call those two scripts all the time. |
To have more luck with running REBOL script with world, do the %rebol.w first. | |
%rebol.w will extend World with some REBOL stuff. We could say, REBOL then is a dialect of World. | |
I added cortex_alpha.pdf to World at GitHub. It's some initial documentation. | |
Pekr 4-Dec-2011 [273] | there's something with mime-types imo - right clicking the exe, choosing to save, saves it as world_win32.exe.htm, containing github html stuff ... |
Oldes 4-Dec-2011 [274] | Why you just down download https://github.com/Geomol/World/zipball/master |
Pekr 4-Dec-2011 [275] | Because thing shoul be easy! And if Geomol points us to the link he posted, I will not look around to find some mysterious zipball ... |
Oldes 4-Dec-2011 [276] | so try to click on it using left button:) https://github.com/Geomol/World/blob/master/world_win32.exe |
Pekr 4-Dec-2011 [277x2] | OK, I found I still have Tortoise git installed, and synced the stuff .... |
It is quite a long time I last used it to get R3 sources ;-) | |
Oldes 4-Dec-2011 [279] | It would be better to contact github to add colorizer for the World language. |
Pekr 4-Dec-2011 [280] | Clicking left button does not help at all - brings you to subpage, where no download button is available. So I used raw link. It stores it as 515kb exe, which is not runnable. |
Oldes 4-Dec-2011 [281x3] | It would probably require a small fix in the current colorizer used for Rebol (so World is recognized as well) |
of course there is the download link... it's called RAW.. and you could also see history with diffewrent versions | |
(once there will be a new versions) | |
Pekr 4-Dec-2011 [284x4] | Just try to download .raw - it is not runnable |
OK, now the question - World is some 515 KB - it is still small in comparison to many other tools out there,but still the question remains - why it is so "big", as it mostly compares to /Core? :-) | |
Interesting - after the start, it also takes 4.3MB vs 2.3MB of R3/View | |
It would be intesting to have 'stats (profiler) available - anything like that planned? | |
Geomol 4-Dec-2011 [288] | Size is probably because of some Windows includes/libs. From my mac: -rwxrwxr-x+ 1 john staff 360286 4 Dec 09:53 world_linux -rwxr-xr-x 1 john staff 346216 3 Dec 11:27 world_macosx -rw-r--r--+ 1 john staff 515991 4 Dec 09:50 world_win32.exe The OS X and Linux version is much smaller. I have to dig into that at some point. But I don't think, it's so important right now. |
Pekr 4-Dec-2011 [289] | Geomol - absolutly - not impotant, just a question of couriosity .... You better focus to some other areas :-) |
Geomol 4-Dec-2011 [290] | Yeah, STATS would be nice. It's not high on my list atm. |
Pekr 4-Dec-2011 [291] | I have got first crash. Try code like: for i 1 1000000 1 [print "ahoy"] ... and press ctrl c |
Geomol 4-Dec-2011 [292] | ctrl c terminates World. That's intentional. |
Pekr 4-Dec-2011 [293] | ok |
Oldes 4-Dec-2011 [294] | I guess you should give us a bug tracker. |
Geomol 4-Dec-2011 [295] | nooo too much work for me. :) Well, for now I would not have time enough to deal with lots of bug reports. At a later time, when I'm mostly done coding on it, and have removed all the bugs, I already know about, and added missing features, bug reports are very welcome. But simple tests, like you see in the test/ dir is a good idea. I can handle a couple of falsed tests at a time now. So maybe that's a way. What do you guys think is a good way? What way will get to the goal knowing I'm booked with things to do already. |
Oldes 4-Dec-2011 [296] | I guess you need form for feature requests as well :) For example the routine! part is not good enough, R2 version is better at this moment. |
Geomol 4-Dec-2011 [297x3] | Yes. |
Fixing the routine part is high on my list. | |
And the defining rules for routines will most likely change, so don't use a lot of time making routines, unless you're ready to change your code later. | |
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