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[!REBOL3 Proposals] For discussion of feature proposals
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BrianH 23-Jan-2011 [807] | Remove ALIAS: http://issue.cc/r3/1835. Thanks, Andreas, for discovering the absence of this ticket. |
Maxim 27-Jan-2011 [808x2] | proposal for four very usefull series functions.... shorter?: func [a [series!] b [series!]][ lesser? length? a length? b ] longer?: func [a [series!] b [series!]][ greater? length? a length? b ] sortest: func [a [series!] b [series!]] [ either shorter? a b [a][b] ] longest: func [a [series!] b [series!]] [ either longer? a b [a][b] ] |
sortest == shortest | |
Steeve 27-Jan-2011 [810] | Is that so ? |
Maxim 27-Jan-2011 [811] | huh? |
Steeve 27-Jan-2011 [812] | I mean, usefullness |
Henrik 27-Jan-2011 [813] | I'm thinking, what kind of code is it that one writes, when you have to compare series lengths? |
Maxim 27-Jan-2011 [814x3] | I just used it 10 minutes ago again... checking if two series need to be synchronised. |
(though they don't use the same values, they are interdependent) | |
we could also add EQUAL-LENGTH? just for completeness | |
Henrik 27-Jan-2011 [817] | ok |
Maxim 27-Jan-2011 [818x2] | they could just be part of a delayed load series module. there are many missing series handling/probing functions in REBOL. we end up writing them over and over. |
remove-duplicates, extract-duplicates, remove-same, prefix?, suffix?, etc the list is long. | |
Rebolek 27-Jan-2011 [820] | how does remove-duplicates work? |
Henrik 27-Jan-2011 [821] | like unique? |
Maxim 27-Jan-2011 [822x4] | this implementation is order safe, removing the duplicates from the end rather than those in the begining remove-duplicates: func [ series /local dup item ][ until [ item: first series if dup: find next series item [remove dup] tail? series: next series ] series ] |
remove-duplicates, does it in-place | |
prefix? and suffix? just return true if a series starts with the same items in the same order as the second one. the second argument is the prefix to compare so you can easily do: unless suffix? file-name %.png [append file-name %.png] | |
the reason these are usefull is that when you chain them within other series handlers, you don't need to always add darn ( ) around the operators. | |
Rebolek 27-Jan-2011 [826] | so what's the difference between unique and remove-duplicates ? |
Maxim 27-Jan-2011 [827x3] | unique returns a new series. |
like all "set" handling functions. (exclude, extract, etc) | |
I rarely need unique... I often need remove-duplicates. | |
Steeve 27-Jan-2011 [830] | yeah, it's shame that unique make a new serie. |
Rebolek 27-Jan-2011 [831] | I was just curious, because even with new series unique is much faster. |
Steeve 27-Jan-2011 [832] | faster, but not GC safe |
Maxim 27-Jan-2011 [833] | its a shame that all "set" functions make new series. we could just easily copy before calling unique: new: unique copy serie |
Steeve 27-Jan-2011 [834] | Agreed 100% |
Maxim 27-Jan-2011 [835x2] | though there is a lot of memory overhead for large series, I'd rather have a refinement on all sets probably /only or something similar, to have them work "in-place" come to think about it, maybe we could make a CC wish for this, seems like its been a topic of discussion for years, and pretty much eveyone agrees that both versions are usefull. |
SWAP is another interesting one... takes two series and swaps their content, in-place. | |
Steeve 27-Jan-2011 [837] | I don't see your point with SWAP |
Maxim 27-Jan-2011 [838x8] | INTERLEAVE is a very usefull function, using two series and mixing them up with many options like counts, skip, duplicates, all cooperating. |
SWAP is interesting, though not as usefull... I don't remember when I used it. ;-0 | |
(that was supposed to be :-P) | |
anyway, I really think that we should accumulate all of the series functions we are using (even the more obscure ones) and make a big standard series handler module in R3. it helps people who are learning REBOL since they don't have to figure out as much how to build these (somethimes non-obvious to implement) funcs. | |
this module could even be an internal delayed load extension... which can include some functions in C and others in REBOL mezz within the extension's module. | |
steeve, I think I was using SWAP for some sort of sorting using the /part refinement. | |
hehe I just discovered that SWAP is already part of R2 and R3 :-) | |
though its missing a few refinements to make it really usefull. | |
Ladislav 27-Jan-2011 [846] | Steeve: "faster, but not GC safe" - in some nonstandard sense? |
Steeve 27-Jan-2011 [847x2] | hum yeah, just to say, that lof of memory is allocated. |
I know most of peoples don't bother. | |
Maxim 27-Jan-2011 [849] | I bother a lot ;-) |
Steeve 27-Jan-2011 [850] | But doing a sorting algorithm without any clue about memory alocations; is just ... clueless ;-) |
Maxim 27-Jan-2011 [851] | well, I do now... |
Steeve 27-Jan-2011 [852x3] | yeah GLASS has some leakages :-) |
but not only GLASS, we have the same wory in any GUI engine | |
several tens of megabytes to just display a simple GUI pisses me off | |
Maxim 27-Jan-2011 [855] | its mostly that liquid caches a lot of things for data, so I'm now doing all I can for the processes to hit the GC less and less. the reason is because it increases performance A LOT. |
Steeve 27-Jan-2011 [856] | I know, it will better Max |
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