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Steeve 14-Dec-2010 [799] | but as it is now, you got pretty nice results |
Ladislav 14-Dec-2010 [800x2] | merging merge with insertion sort give better results - actually, it depends; "merging merge with insertion sort" gives worse results from the information-theoretical POV (IMO), since you "prefer certain permutations" (= give them higher probability) |
Thus, you can sort certain permutations (the ones already sorted) much faster, than is the "information theoretical limit", but at the cost of exceeding it noticeably sorting other permutations. | |
Steeve 15-Dec-2010 [802x2] | Searching for an optimal (small and fast) implementation of the following pattern. * Swap two subsets inside a serie. input block: [4 5 6 1 2] (5 values) Starting index of the 2nd subset inside the block: 4 Output: [ 1 2 4 5 6] Easy to do in plain Rebol right ? But here's the trouble, It must be memory safe. You're not allowed to do any memory allocation. You're can only swap values inside the block. And the number of swaps should be optimal. (no sort, no parse, no copy/make/insert/append/change) |
Don't want something recursive aswell | |
Sunanda 15-Dec-2010 [804] | Just for starters.....This does it with 12 XORs (three per swap). But the tricky bit may be pre-computing the from-list and to-list mapping ;; function to do the swap swap-items: func [ data [block!] from-list [block!] to-list [block!] /local ind1 ind2 ][ for n 1 length? from-list 1 [ ind1: from-list/:n ind2: to-list/:n data/:ind1: xor data/:ind1 data/:ind2 data/:ind2: xor data/:ind1 data/:ind2 data/:ind1: xor data/:ind1 data/:ind2 ] return data ] ;; Sample run block: [4 5 6 1 2] probe swap-items block [1 2 1 1] [3 4 5 2] [1 2 4 5 6] |
Steeve 15-Dec-2010 [805x3] | I should have said: the values can be of any type,.integers or anything else. You don't need to find a tricky way to swap values. The purpose is not to find how to swap values. The purpose is to find an algorithm with a minimal amount of single swaps . >> swap-sub [a b 1 d z 3 X 3 Y ] 7 == [ X 3 Y a b 1 d z 3] |
in R3, you can swap values like this: swap [a] [b] in R2 a: also b a: b Or use a tmp variable, as you want. | |
Any kind of these methods count as 1 swap. | |
Ladislav 15-Dec-2010 [808] | what does that 7 in swap-sub [a b 1 d z 3 X 3 Y ] 7 mean? |
Steeve 15-Dec-2010 [809x3] | 7 is the index if the second subset in the serie |
where X stand | |
I try to swap [[a b 1 d z 3] [X 3 Y ]] minus the sub blocks | |
Ladislav 15-Dec-2010 [812] | OK, thanks |
Andreas 15-Dec-2010 [813] | Not optimal, but a start: bubble-to-front: funct [series index] [for i index 2 -1 [swap b: at series i back b] series] swap-sub: funct [series position] [loop (n: length? series) - position + 1 [bubble-to-front series n] series] |
Sunanda 16-Dec-2010 [814] | I've written some very clunky code that I'd be ashamed to post as a solution. But I can offer you an algorithm that acheives the effect in N-1 swaps at most where N is the sum of the lengths of the two sequences. It's the more-or-less same algorithm used by Andreas. Here's how it works. Given these two sequences: a b c 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Step1: cyclically rotate the longer sequence M times, where M is the difference in length of the sequences. So in this case, we rotate 3 (7 - 4) times: a b c 4 5 6 7 1 2 3 Step2: swap the elements of the shorter sequence with the tail of the longer one: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 a b c And it's done. The cycling in place is the tricky part. It can be done, but my code is just too ugly to share :( Andreas's bubble-to-front is an elegant approach to doing the cycling, but is not optimed to reduce the number of steps. It's a managable sub-problem that is a challenge to solve, so I am sure someone can do better than me :) |
Ladislav 16-Dec-2010 [815x3] | ; helper function: swap-first: func [ {swap the first elements of A and B} a [series!] b [series!] /local t ][ set/any 't first a change/only a first b change/only b get/any 't ] |
; implementation: swap-sub: func [ {swap the subseries using the SWAP-FIRST function} a [series!] b [integer!] /local la lb pa pb ][ pa: a la: b - 1 pb: skip a la lb: (length? a) - la while [all [la > 0 lb > 0]][ either la <= lb [ loop la [ swap-first pa pb pa: next pa pb: next pb ] pb: skip pa la lb: lb - la ][ pa: skip pa la - lb loop lb [ swap-first pa pb pa: next pa pb: next pb ] pa: skip pa negate la la: la - lb pb: skip pa la ] ] a ] | |
but, I do not have a proof at hand, that it is optimal | |
Sunanda 16-Dec-2010 [818] | I had a similar volume of code, but not nearly as neat, Ladislav. The problem somehow feels that it ought to have a one-liner solution; but the constaints on what can be used in the code make that hard to find :) |
Rebolek 16-Dec-2010 [819] | looks more like rebcode :) |
Sunanda 16-Dec-2010 [820] | When you take away everything that makes REBOL REBOL, there's not much left :) |
Anton 16-Dec-2010 [821] | Steeve also forgot to mention that you're not allowed to use syntax. |
Sunanda 16-Dec-2010 [822] | :/) |
Ladislav 16-Dec-2010 [823x4] | this may look more readable: ; implementation: swap-n: func [ {swap n elements} a [series!] b [series!] n [integer!] ][ loop n [swap-first a b a: next a b: next b] ] swap-sub: func [ {swap the subseries using the SWAP-FIRST function} a [series!] b [integer!] /local la lb pa pb ][ pa: a la: b - 1 pb: skip a la lb: (length? a) - la while [all [la > 0 lb > 0]][ either la <= lb [ swap-n pa pb la pb: skip pa la lb: lb - la ][ pa: skip pa la - lb swap-n pa pb lb pa: skip pa negate la la: la - lb pb: skip pa la ] ] a ] |
aha, it is wrong, this way | |
swap-sub: func [ {swap the subseries using the SWAP-FIRST function} a [series!] b [integer!] /local la lb pa pb ][ pa: a la: b - 1 pb: skip a la lb: (length? a) - la while [all [la > 0 lb > 0]][ either la <= lb [ swap-n pa pb la pa: pb pb: skip pa la lb: lb - la ][ swap-n skip pa la - lb pb lb la: la - lb pb: skip pa la ] ] a ] swap-first: func [ {swap the first elements of A and B} a [series!] b [series!] /local t ][ k: k + 1 set/any 't first a change/only a first b change/only b get/any 't ] k: 0 swap-sub [1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9] 7 k ; == 6 | |
So, Sunanda, how many swaps you are getting? | |
Sunanda 16-Dec-2010 [827] | If the two series lengths are L1 and L2, I get L1+L2-1 swaps -- at most. But there are exceptions, eg: [a b c d 1 2] Needs only 4 swaps....An any [{L1 // L2) = 0 (L2 // L1) = 0] test triggers a shortcut. However .....I also have some edge-case bugs in my code -- so you win!! |
Claude 16-Dec-2010 [828x2] | /9c=8O%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%0P/*****5%('rrrrrrrrbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb |
OUPS my cat on my keyboard ;-) | |
Pekr 16-Dec-2010 [830] | :-) |
Henrik 16-Dec-2010 [831] | Claude, use the little pencil above the typing area for multi-line text. That might reduce accidental sending :-) |
Steeve 16-Dec-2010 [832x2] | Thanks for your hard work. I didn't read your proposals yet, though. I think I found the optimal way. As you noticed, it involves modulo maths. swap-sub: func [s pos /local len e sav][ -- pos sav: s forever [ e: skip s pos len: length? s loop len - pos [swap ++ s ++ e] if zero? len // pos [break] pos: pos - (len // pos) ] sav ] |
Now I will rewrite it, with different input parameters, so that it can swap sup-parts of larger series. | |
Sunanda 16-Dec-2010 [834] | That looks good steeve -- short, neat code, looks optimal on the swap numbers. And a completely different algorithm to mine. |
Steeve 16-Dec-2010 [835] | The swap numbers may be optimal, but it appears to me than the code may be faster. if one swap the ++ operator with -- in some cases, then one may reduce the number of forever loops needed. But the swap number ober the serie will remain the same. |
Steeve 17-Dec-2010 [836] | How to waste his time ? Get ladislav's mergesort working in-place. --> done |
Sunanda 17-Dec-2010 [837] | Is it faster that way? |
Steeve 17-Dec-2010 [838] | Slower, the algorithm more complex, lot of swap. If it was compiled, maybe... |
Ladislav 18-Dec-2010 [839] | I wonder, whether the majority of users prefer POKE to stay as-is, or would welcome it to accept any-type DATA argument? |
Oldes 18-Dec-2010 [840] | I don't use POKE.. what I remeber.. maybe just in some rare cases. |
Anton 18-Dec-2010 [841x2] | Steeve, good fun. I came to a swap-sub using modulo as well, but it only worked for some series lengths, and I had to sleep before figuring out which lengths they were, but they surely included prime numbers. |
(I used only a single loop). I thought maybe I could detect which series lengths could be processed using only a single loop, and other cases could be processed using another algorithm. | |
Anton 25-Dec-2010 [843] | Steeve, did you finish the swap-sub yet? Curious. |
Steeve 25-Dec-2010 [844] | It was already, I just changed the inputs for other purposes. |
Anton 25-Dec-2010 [845] | You said above "so that it can swap sub-parts of larger series". Is that what you mean? |
Steeve 25-Dec-2010 [846] | yeah, i just had to pass an extra parameter to set the length of the added sub-parts, instead of calculate it. But the algorithm remains the same. |
Anton 25-Dec-2010 [847x2] | Ok, easy. |
Ladislav, does not POKE DATA parameter already accept argument of any type ? ( I checked only Rebol3 alpha 76 (not most recent) and Rebol2.7.7). | |
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