World: r3wp
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Robert 26-Jan-2010 [151x2] | Than decloakd doesn't take it. Only works on binary! |
BTW: R3-CC link is hard to find. And do I have an account from either R3-Chat or AltMe? Or do I need to get an extra one? | |
Gabriele 26-Jan-2010 [153] | is your data binary? if not, to binary! it. (it should be though, the resulf of encloak is binary on R2 as well.) |
Henrik 26-Jan-2010 [154] | Robert, you need an extra account. I remember the R3 bug system by going to curecode.org and clicking "bug tracker". |
Robert 26-Jan-2010 [155x2] | Gab: The data was written with: write %filename encloak to-string data |
data is block! | |
Gabriele 26-Jan-2010 [157] | robert, that should have been write/binary %filename encloak ... otherwise you may lose data. |
Robert 26-Jan-2010 [158x2] | Ok, thanks. But will it solve the R3 problem? |
Yes, it does. Thx. Got it working now. | |
Pekr 26-Jan-2010 [160x4] | Hmm, from this - http://www.rebol.com/toc.html |
I got to this - http://www.rebol.com/priorities.html | |
So we at least know a bit, what is planned ;-) | |
Damned, I was not supposed to link to this page ... and this group is web public .... | |
Henrik 26-Jan-2010 [164] | Oh, nice. |
Pekr 26-Jan-2010 [165x2] | nice, surely ... now Carl will kill me :-) |
otoh I found it out myself ... just clicking small WIP wiki icons, which are publicly available :-) | |
Henrik 26-Jan-2010 [167x2] | just wondering when we'll get edit access. typo reports are piling up. |
From R3 chat it sounds like Graham can edit, but I wonder if he means the general pages or just the manual. | |
amacleod 26-Jan-2010 [169] | Sounds like a lot of work still ahead...for R3 beta |
Robert 26-Jan-2010 [170] | Petr, see it as a smart marketing action. Make it hidden, mighty and people will take a look. IMO Apple knows this to perfection. Creating a huge hype & buzz upfront new products. |
Graham 26-Jan-2010 [171] | Rebol's future lies in R3. So, prioritizing the website over r3 development, and hence blocking all the developers, seems an odd choice |
Robert 26-Jan-2010 [172] | +1 (it's an important step, yes. But all people that care about R3 at the moment are here and know how to use it.) |
Graham 26-Jan-2010 [173x2] | We should present our own priority list and compare them ... |
No doubt everyone's list will be a little different | |
Henrik 26-Jan-2010 [175] | I wonder if Carl isn't just following a GTD scheme, which basically means working on whatever motivates him the most right now, because that overall gives the highest level of productivity. |
Graham 26-Jan-2010 [176] | Well, no wonder there's no one else left at RT |
Henrik 26-Jan-2010 [177x2] | and sometimes leaving a problem alone for a while allows a much better solution present itself. |
to present | |
Graham 26-Jan-2010 [179] | R3 is not going to be finished by one person ... the whole point was to involve the community. |
Henrik 26-Jan-2010 [180] | well, it seems to me the community is plenty involved, but it could be a bit better. |
Graham 26-Jan-2010 [181] | Blocking the community by working on the website just seems incompatible with that aim |
Henrik 26-Jan-2010 [182] | I'm not sure how that blocks the community. Did curecode stop working? |
Pekr 26-Jan-2010 [183x2] | I agree with Graham - in fact it is highly demotivating and frustrating situation. Some points of my analysis are ignored, and exactly predictable. When website redo and 2.x upgrade was announced, I knew exactly what happens and what it means for R3. Not a one week halt, but it is stalled for more than one month already. |
Why do we always stop at 95% of the subsystem completness? | |
Graham 26-Jan-2010 [185] | Normally things stop at 90-95% because they're too difficult |
Henrik 26-Jan-2010 [186] | Sorry, I'm playing devil's advocate here. But, really, there is still a ton of things to do that doesn't involve Carl. The function reference manual is only 30% done and that took me a week to do. So why don't a couple of people here continue the work? I won't have time for the next few months. Carl has asked for this several times, and this is something that really needs to be done. |
Graham 26-Jan-2010 [187] | Henrik ... do we even have a license? |
Henrik 26-Jan-2010 [188] | To what? |
Graham 26-Jan-2010 [189] | for r3 |
Pekr 26-Jan-2010 [190] | Henrik - maybe ppl too want to choose, what they work on? :-) E.g. Graham started the work on Schemes. He really SHOULD (and was supposed to be) supported. Nothin happened. Robert throwed some Extension related questions to R3 Chat - no answers too ... |
Graham 26-Jan-2010 [191] | A number of us said that R3 chat was a waste of resources ... and ... now, barely anyone uses it. |
Henrik 26-Jan-2010 [192] | So people can choose what to work on and Carl can't? |
Graham 26-Jan-2010 [193x2] | Carl can do what he wants .. and that's the problem |
His choices are illogical | |
Henrik 26-Jan-2010 [195x2] | Pekr, Graham knows more about schemes and protocols now than he did before. I'd say there is a win there. |
Graham, so should we shut down the open R3 chat, which you and I can fix bugs in and use the AltME that people don't like because it's closed source? | |
Graham 26-Jan-2010 [197x3] | There's no win if I can't use it for anything ... |
Might as well shut down R3 chat as Carl isn't using it .. and that was supposed to be his communication channel | |
Questions go unanswered ... | |
Henrik 26-Jan-2010 [200] | Well, you have the knowledge now. |
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