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Andreas
31-Jan-2012
[7380x2]
One nasty crash seems to be located in RESOLVE (cc#1865), which basically 
makes almost all module-system related stuff unstable/crashy.
Basically, everywhere you use IMPORT you could be affected by this 
bug.
Jerry
31-Jan-2012
[7382]
I can assure you that there is a bug in Resolve.
Pekr
31-Jan-2012
[7383]
We should probably buy a radio, and contact Carl on Mendoradio :-)
BrianH
31-Jan-2012
[7384]
The module system can be fixed to not use RESOLVE/extend/only, and 
a few months ago I submitted such a fix to Saphiron for them to include 
in their next host code release, along with other mezzanine fixes. 
I'm just waiting for them to post another release. In the meanwhile, 
in my own module code that does exports I do the exports explicitly 
in the module code itself instead of using the EXPORT keyword or 
the Exports header.
Andreas
31-Jan-2012
[7385]
Afaik, we (the community, that includes Saphirion) cannot build binaries 
incorporating mezzanine changes with the current hostkit.
BrianH
31-Jan-2012
[7386]
Nope, you just can't build a single binary with a statically linked 
r3lib. You can build a host kit exe with a dynamically linked r3lib 
with any mezz changes you want.
Andreas
31-Jan-2012
[7387]
Nope, the current hostkit build does not take mezz changes into account 
in any way.
BrianH
31-Jan-2012
[7388]
Interesting. I thought that the mezzanines were loaded by the host, 
not built into r3lib.
Andreas
31-Jan-2012
[7389x2]
Some of them are (mostly the bundled extension related ones), most 
of them are not.
(See %src/tools/make-host-{init,ext}.r for details.)
BrianH
31-Jan-2012
[7391x2]
If I make a patch file that fixes the mezz problems, including the 
module-related ones, will that work? For now (when the module list 
isn't really protected yet) this is doable...
We can't hot-patch functions in R3 for security reasons, but we can 
replace them completely with fixed versions.
Andreas
31-Jan-2012
[7393x3]
When would you load that patch file?
I think you mentioned somewhere, that replacing affected functions 
from user.r is not possible.
(For this particular RESOLVE issue.)
BrianH
31-Jan-2012
[7396x2]
I load a patch file in %rebol.r right now, for my work use of R3. 
If I was doing my own host builds then I would put a reference to 
the patch file early on in the host-init code.
%rebol.r still works, and it loads pretty early on in the boot process. 
The host init loads earlier.
Andreas
31-Jan-2012
[7398x2]
I don't have the loading intricacies in enough detail in my head 
right now to reason about this sensibly.
But I guess we could at least try, if you have a particular hotfix 
in mind.
BrianH
31-Jan-2012
[7400x2]
I have a list of fixes and improvements in mind, so I'll see if there's 
some time by the end of this week to put together a patch file. I'm 
sorry that I haven't documented the module system well enough to 
make it practical for anyone other than me to patch it at runtime. 
Improving its documentation is on my todo list, though I've been 
a bit busy at work lately.
Hopefully this patch file will serve as an example for others who 
want to do similar patching.
Cyphre
31-Jan-2012
[7402:last]
I succesfully 'overloaded' some mezz functions in R3 in the RMA hostkit. 
See the inclusion of %rma-patches.r file in src\tools\make-host-init.r 
in the RMA host-kit release. So it is possible to do some fixes that 
way.(of course not every part can be tweaked such way)