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Ladislav
20-Jan-2011
[5400]
Forget to use it at all
Pekr
20-Jan-2011
[5401]
ok, so what paramters make-face uses as first argument? Can I use 
any style name? E.g. make-face 'button?
Ladislav
20-Jan-2011
[5402x2]
You need to specify the style of the face you need to create
Of course, only existing styles (styles you, or someone else defined) 
can be used
Pekr
20-Jan-2011
[5404]
So basically I can create instance of any style? If so, then heck, 
it is more flexible than I thought :-)
Ladislav
20-Jan-2011
[5405]
Yes, it is
Pekr
20-Jan-2011
[5406]
I initially thought only 'hpanel, 'vpanel is possible, and that it 
is only for panel :-) Well, now I am cool with make-face :-)
Ladislav
20-Jan-2011
[5407]
I simply don't regard instantiated style, being a face?

 - why not, if we "borrow" the class-based OOP terminology, then styles 
 may be considered analogies of classes, and faces may be considered 
 analogies of instances (objects) of their styles
Pekr
20-Jan-2011
[5408]
Why following works:

child: make-face 'window reduce/no-set [content: lay]

while following does not?

child: make-face 'window compose/deep [content: [(lay)]]
Ladislav
20-Jan-2011
[5409x2]
Here, the latter works as well
This one should work too:

okno: make-face 'window compose/only [content: lay]
Cyphre
20-Jan-2011
[5411]
Pekr, using only the MAKE-FACE for making faces was a step for simplifiing 
things. No need to know any other functions for that.
Pekr
20-Jan-2011
[5412]
** Script error: button has no value
** Where: make make make-face catch either either -apply- do

** Near: make styl/facets opts options: make object! any [opts []] 
ta...
Ladislav
20-Jan-2011
[5413x2]
You need to show the code, for me it works
sorry, my last example should have been:

child: make-face 'window compose/only [content: (lay)]
Pekr
20-Jan-2011
[5415x2]
lay: [button "OK"]
child: make-face 'window compose/deep [content: (lay)]
view child
ah, my bad :-( I miss the enclosing block to lay
Ladislav
20-Jan-2011
[5417]
you need to use either the one you wrote:

child: make-face 'window compose/deep [content: [(lay)]]

,or the one I wrote
Henrik
20-Jan-2011
[5418]
can you pass an object to make-face?
Ladislav
20-Jan-2011
[5419]
the style has to be specified as a word, if that is what your question 
was about
Henrik
20-Jan-2011
[5420]
it was the data argument, instead of fiddling with composing a block.
Ladislav
20-Jan-2011
[5421]
Aha, you meant options? They can be supplied as #[none] meaning "no 
options supplied", or as a map! as well
Henrik
20-Jan-2011
[5422]
but not an object?
Ladislav
20-Jan-2011
[5423x2]
not currently, do you want to have such an alternative as well?
you should use a map when you don't like a block
Henrik
20-Jan-2011
[5425]
I don't see why not. I think there would be plenty of advantages 
in allowing objects as face options. They are easier to build, store 
and configure than blocks.
Pekr
20-Jan-2011
[5426]
If it's not against some security aspects, then I support Henrik, 
and such alternative could be added. You can decide priority for 
yourself, I am not pushing for it ...
Cyphre
20-Jan-2011
[5427]
The reason we didn't allow object! for options was the 'inconsistency' 
of:
make object! object!
vs.
make object! [block! | map! | none]


in R3. We might add support for object!s but it will make the function 
a bit more complex.
Ladislav
20-Jan-2011
[5428]
I am against it, when:

- maps are available
- no convincing reason exists
Henrik
20-Jan-2011
[5429]
As long as you can do at least the same with maps as with objects, 
then it's ok. I'm focusing on ease of building, storing and configuring 
potentially very large options for faces.
Ladislav
20-Jan-2011
[5430]
You can do more with maps - e.g. remove fields
Henrik
20-Jan-2011
[5431]
ok, then I retract my request.
jocko
23-Jan-2011
[5432]
Pekr, any news about porting the Carl's gui demo ?
Pekr
23-Jan-2011
[5433x3]
Not yet, apart from initial tries. I will work on it today in the 
afternoon though.
One thing is clear - it will not be complete port, e.g. fly-in/out 
effects are not supported when changing the panel content (switch-panel 
function is not adapted yet). Somy styles are also not adapted to 
the new GUI, and some are not adapted to the resizing model. I would 
welcome if RMA would do that basic work. E.g. even something like 
view [doc "text"] is guggy, and it displays the content twice, etc.
I expect those things being fixed as we go, though ...
jocko
23-Jan-2011
[5436]
I encourage you (with the support of RMA) to do it , as far as it 
is possible, as this demo is well conceived, very "pedagogic", and 
auto-documented.
Henrik
23-Jan-2011
[5437]
Pekr's contribution is very appreciated, thanks.
Pekr
23-Jan-2011
[5438x2]
I have a question to 'when style - is that adapted? Well, it basically 
works, in a simple panel example:


lay: [button "OK" do [print "OK"] when [load] do [print "screen on-load"]]
view lay

But when I simulate the demo, it is not triggered:


lay: [button "OK" do [print "OK"] when [load] do [print "screen on-load"]]

panel: make-face 'vpanel [columns: 1] 
set-panel-content panel lay

win: make-face 'window []
set-panel-content win panel

view win
in the second example, we don't even need to use 'win, just "view 
panel", and the result is the same. I simply wonder, where's the 
problem. My suspicion is, that panel content functions are not compatible 
with the 'when style?
Cyphre
24-Jan-2011
[5440x3]
Pekr, currently, the LOAD trigger is triggered during the 'making 
of panel' and not when the content of the panel changes. But you 
can 'workaround ' that.

Also the content handling functions doesn't process the triggers 
correctly but we'll fix that part.
The questions are:

1. Should be LOAD triggered when whole content of panel changes? 
I'd say yes.

2. Should be LOAD triggered when part of the content of panel changes? 
I'm not sure here.
To workaround the current issue you should build the panel like:


lay: [button "OK" do [print "OK"] when [load] do [print "screen on-load"]]
panel: make-face 'vpanel [columns: 1 content: lay]
win: make-face 'window []
set-panel-content win panel
view win
I such case the lay is built during the 'vpanel creation so the triggers 
get called.
Pekr
24-Jan-2011
[5443x3]
OK, leaving for a business trip, but one other question:


when I click toggle, it crashes. It seems to me, that the 'of reactor 
and namely exclude panel is not handled properly, but I will try 
later ...
** Script error: cannot access faces in path panel/faces

** Where: exclude-faces -apply- apply if foreach if do-face if do 
do-bind-actor

actor all foreach do-style until if do-event do-event do-event either 
-apply- wa

ke-up loop -apply- wait do-events if view catch either either -apply- 
do
** Near: exclude-faces face name
Cyphre, thanks for the tips. If you will have any new release with 
some bugs fixed, please post it, so that I don't try to adapt already 
dated sources ...
Cyphre
24-Jan-2011
[5446]
We'll definitely release new version this week, as usually ;)
Pekr
24-Jan-2011
[5447]
Ah, I thought that each new version is announced? OK, I will watch 
for changes myself, no problem ;-)
Ladislav
24-Jan-2011
[5448]
Cyphre's "as usually" most probably means "on Friday", and I bet 
Cyphre will put a note to the announcement group when the update 
will be available.
Pekr
24-Jan-2011
[5449]
Interesting. I know that I was told that 'when style is not adapted, 
but - you probably saw my earlier screenshot, which shows space at 
the top of the panel. I get this, when I use the following method:

pan: make-face 'vpanel [columns: 1] 
insert-panel-content pan pick test-blocks index
set-panel-content main-pan pan


But - if I use Cyphre's method, the visual space at the top of the 
panel is not there. My quick conclusion is, that panel content handling 
funcitons are not compatible for various creation methods:


pan: make-face 'vpanel [columns: 1content: pick test-blocks index]
set-panel-content main-pan pan

Going to temporarily use Cyphre's version ....