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BrianH 26-Aug-2010 [2900] | Yeah. And then we decided to stop calling it VID because of the confusion. There was even a blog where a new name was requested, but it never came to a consensus. So we ended up calling it the R# GUI by default. The only one who still calls it VID is Pekr. |
Pekr 26-Aug-2010 [2901] | Graham: Who do you ask, Henrik? :-) |
Henrik 26-Aug-2010 [2902] | graham, if you want, you can do something like this: view [vid [...regular vid dialect...]] If you write a style called VID and implement the dialect in it. |
BrianH 26-Aug-2010 [2903] | (That was to Perk) |
Graham 26-Aug-2010 [2904] | (length? 'VID) < length? 'R3GUI |
Henrik 26-Aug-2010 [2905] | there's no limit to the size and complexity of a style, if that's what you mean. |
BrianH 26-Aug-2010 [2906] | (length? "rock") < (length? "marshmallow") What's your point? There are docs and tutorials for VID out there. They don't in any way apply to the R3 GUI. |
Graham 26-Aug-2010 [2907x2] | no, typing :) |
2 more letters ... | |
Pekr 26-Aug-2010 [2909] | There is no confusion, sooner or later we do reach the matrix's "there is no spoon" = there is no R2 - old, forgotten, boring. Do you call Delphi 6 not a Delphi, because you can't run the code in Delphi 2 anymore? Does Perl 6 rename, even if different to the old generation? VID is a good name. Simply put version 3.x is not compatible with version 2.x, easy as that ... I can't see any confusion, if we talk about VID in R3 related channels ... |
BrianH 26-Aug-2010 [2910] | Yes has one more letter than No. They don't mean the same thing. |
Pekr 26-Aug-2010 [2911] | (maybe the VID name selection should have been finished :-), if we would e.g. chose VIVID (vastly improve VID), there would be no confusion nowadays :-) |
Rebolek 26-Aug-2010 [2912] | I call it R3GUI to not confuse it with old VID, but I don't know if it's final name (not that I care right now). |
BrianH 26-Aug-2010 [2913] | I liked VIVID too. The most important thing is to not call it VID though. |
Pekr 26-Aug-2010 [2914x2] | R3GUI is surely not a final name, althought not that bad. It reads as REGUI, which is close to RebGUI :-) It will not work, once R4 is introduced (in 2020 or so :-) |
vivid.com si a porn-site though, so I think that VIVID is 1) not useable due to the factor mentioned 2) maybe too general name to google for? maybe vivid-gui.com would work though, dunno ... let's not opent the topic right now, there was something like 40 or more names suggested :-) | |
Ammon 26-Aug-2010 [2916] | I agree with calling it R3GUI until it is publicly available but I will not be suprised if we end up calling it VID again in the end... |
Pekr 26-Aug-2010 [2917] | In R3 channels, I expect vid referring to VID3 ... and why not distinguis it via VID2, VID3 then? Easy, and much easier to type than R3GUI ... |
BrianH 26-Aug-2010 [2918x2] | Vivid is a standard english word, so it will not be as easy to search for on the internet. |
Too bad, it sounds cool. | |
Graham 26-Aug-2010 [2920] | VID VID2 VID3.4 and back to VID3 |
Henrik 26-Aug-2010 [2921] | (finally a topic that everyone can contribute to :-)) |
Graham 26-Aug-2010 [2922x3] | I always preferred GOD for graphic object dialect |
but curiously no one else liked it | |
Nice and sweet | |
BrianH 26-Aug-2010 [2925] | A search for GOD may take a lifetime to find any useful answers :) |
Graham 26-Aug-2010 [2926] | well clearly REBOL would be in the same search because of word overloading |
BrianH 26-Aug-2010 [2927] | How would a search for REBOL GOD not turn up references to Carl, Gabriele or Ladislav? :) |
Graham 26-Aug-2010 [2928] | http://www.rebol.net/wiki/Glossary Face A REBOL object serving as a VID element. A higher level than the gob! datatype. |
Gabriele 26-Aug-2010 [2929] | hmm... would that imply that I don't exist? |
BrianH 26-Aug-2010 [2930] | Graham, that wiki includes R2 docs too. And is outdated - the VID references should be excised, or qualified. |
Graham 26-Aug-2010 [2931] | Gabriele .. if enough people believe in you, you will exist! |
BrianH 26-Aug-2010 [2932] | Gabriele, thanks for that "dying for our sins" thing. That was a classy thing to do :) |
Graham 26-Aug-2010 [2933x3] | You'll be more than a tea port in a planetary orbit |
pot | |
Ahh... Gabriele has gone .. in a puff of celestial smoke! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot | |
Anton 26-Aug-2010 [2936x2] | Oh oh, I'm not sure I like how this discussion is evolving. |
(Ooops, I shouldn't have said that...) | |
Steeve 26-Aug-2010 [2938] | Today, I made some tests (again) with vectorial fonts using draw. And... It's not that bad when the gamma correction is... corrected. My test: font: ["verdana" size: 15] gamma 2.0 pen none http://sites.google.com/site/rebolish/test-1/not_bad.png (look at the white text) |
AdrianS 28-Aug-2010 [2939] | Can anyone say what the criteria was for how functions were split under draw and shape? Seems that the shape ones could just as well be under draw. |
shadwolf 28-Aug-2010 [2940] | steeve is doing an irc mini client like ... the font is well designed but a gamma correction 2.0 isn't it a bit too clear ? why 2.0 and not 20.0 ? seems something completly arbitrary again a speudo hack to solve a lack of real work ... |
shadwolf 29-Aug-2010 [2941x2] | so in conclusion another week without any real progress ... |
CAn we have a better calling for R3 hostkit package ... since it's supposed to haven't change on API level can't we distinguish the number for the hostkit api version and a number for the GUI related engine ? something like r3-hostkit-102-GUI-still-the-same.zip ? | |
Graham 29-Aug-2010 [2943x2] | BTW, the gvoice2 script http://rebol.wik.is/GoogleVoicecould just as easily be written in R3GUI ... if it were available |
ahh.. retract that .. no table style I guess | |
Henrik 29-Aug-2010 [2945] | correct |
Pekr 29-Aug-2010 [2946] | IIRC there was a screenshot showing grid is available for new gui? Done by Cyphre? |
Henrik 30-Aug-2010 [2947] | not used yet as it has not been adapted for the new resizing |
Graham 30-Aug-2010 [2948] | where's the link Pekr? |
Pekr 30-Aug-2010 [2949] | http://rebol.hmkdesign.dk/files/r3/gui/208.png |
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