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[!REBOL3 Schemes] Implementors guide
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Carl 7-Jan-2010 [305] | Is that the most practical? What ever happened to operating systems that provide a real console lib? |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [306] | the most practical is to make it usable for users and optimize later on |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [307] | Certainly, we can use our 1998ish console code to start. But, seems a bit backward. |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [308x2] | lacking cut and paste as now is somewhat even more backward! |
Feels like the original console of 1998 which also lacked cut and paste if I recall correctly | |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [310] | What, you can't write everything in one line? |
Maxim 7-Jan-2010 [311] | hehe |
Steeve 7-Jan-2010 [312] | uhuh |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [313] | writing a scheme in one line ... nope |
Steeve 7-Jan-2010 [314] | and what about a graphic console (with gobs) ? |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [315] | You paste schemes?! |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [316] | you're being silly |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [317] | S: that was my goal. |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [318] | I'm responding the same |
Maxim 7-Jan-2010 [319] | C: I have, for testing, it worked very well in R2 |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [320x3] | Actually I was trying to paste in your code samples from the wiki ... |
you need to reformat them all as one liners | |
lol | |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [323x3] | Yes, I have same issue on bug testing from curecode. |
Of course, if that's all you really need, then just write a do-clip function. | |
But, I suspect people want some other features, no? | |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [326] | who cares what others want .. this is Graham's group :) |
Kaj 7-Jan-2010 [327x2] | Current OSes have console libs, but they're different depending on the platform |
So the issue is whether to standardise or diversify | |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [329] | The windows console in Windows 7 is very odd ... if you maximize it , it shifts to the left hand side of the screen. Try and move it and is shrinks back again :( |
Maxim 7-Jan-2010 [330] | I think that is the role of the host. people with experience in OS specific console code should adapt their host code to use it. |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [331] | the dos shell does the same |
Henrik 7-Jan-2010 [332] | ah, so no progress there from win95. |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [333] | Amazing how multibillion dollar companies don't maintain basic utilities. |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [334] | so, if you want to read the examples on a web page ( usuaally placed on the left ) and have an maximized console open .. you can't see both |
Kaj 7-Jan-2010 [335] | As long as there's no meaningful competition... |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [336] | Luckily my secondary LCD screen has arrived now ... |
Kaj 7-Jan-2010 [337] | Rich organisations and people are rich, for one reason, by not spending it |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [338] | Well, no one will reject it outright for bad console. |
Maxim 7-Jan-2010 [339] | Graham... did you try the screen? mine works its really cool. |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [340x2] | Yes .. I have tried it |
Needs 10 points of touch to set it up corectly | |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [342] | Anway, we can go the custom route on the console. But, we'll need help with that on Linux (whatever desktop) and OS X, etc. |
Maxim 7-Jan-2010 [343x2] | yes... the basic code is there, which anyone can improve. |
Carl, did you get lib loading to work properly on OSX ? | |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [345] | Now back to basic documentation ... have you allocated any spare cycles to this? |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [346] | G: yes... and more than spare cycles. But, the list is long. |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [347] | note to self .. update rebolweek to say that Carl is restoring the 1998 r1 console to R3alpha .... |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [348] | Not r1. R2! |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [349] | schemes would be a nice place to start .... we need to get smtp, and pop done. |
Kaj 7-Jan-2010 [350] | G, that's what you just requested, wasn't it? |
Graham 7-Jan-2010 [351] | Ok, r2 then .. but that wasn't 1998. |
Carl 7-Jan-2010 [352x2] | true. |
M: ran into holiday schedule on OS X libs. | |
Henrik 7-Jan-2010 [354] | Graham, perfect for a third party to do (and has been for about a year). |
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