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Hmm, I will have to talk about it with Cyphre. But after all those 
years, I wanted to see Carl :-) And if we do 2008 in Prague, next 
time it will be another place (hopefully I will be able to visit). 
But I also planned small promo, some media interview with Carl, etc. 
Anyway - as for RT - there is not DevCon this year ....

http://scienceroll.com/2008/04/21/the-first-international-virtual-association-of-surgeons-meeting/

We could also use Second Life as these surgeons are for the Devcon

Or, we could all atttend one of those virtual churches and hijack 
the proceedings :)

LOL

Dr. Dobbs has meetings all the time in Second Life

Would anyone be interested in setting aside a day for a virtual Rebcon? 
I am quite curious about 3.0 and projects you all are working on 
plus if some of the gurus could do a workshop(s) on topics (OK, my 
personal fav's)  such as:
Cheyenne
Com/DLL 
Flash Dialect

Anyway, it's a thought and we have only a few weeks left in 2008

I'm interested.

I suspect in exchange of a REAL devcon, most of us would be apt for 
a virtual one.  We need a GOOD way to allow one person to control 
a camera, and voice, and for others to be able to ask questions. 
 THen pass the cam on.

I will give a talk on how we are using REBOL.

Excellent Reichart. Does it have to be live? If we just schedule 
the talks, that may work. Let's give some quick thought. Do you think 
it has to be based on some rebol technology?

Graham is into all sorts of interesting uses of Rebol that I'd like 
to hear about as well.

Yes, it HAS to be live.  This is the power of a conference.  THe 
real time interaction.  To KNOW people are there...now...this is 
not to stop some talks from being recorded ahead of time.  But you 
will lose a lot this way.

You don't see it working that a person could present something that 
was recorded and then at the end we could jump onto Altme? I know, 
kinda cheesey.

Yeah, there is "energy" in knowing you need to be THERE to get your 
questions in.

To be there for the jokes, for the stories, etc.

OK, live it is.

We should do it perhaps over several days, around 12:00pm California 
time, since this allows for people in Australia to get up early, 
and join, and also most of Europe, for whom it will be night.

That sound great. Does 12/27-28 sound good? Saturday and Sunday here 
in CA.

Hmmm, it would be interesting to have a DevCon at this time, since 
many people are at home.

May I suggest, that we do this another way, we create a list and 
let everyone post when is best, and when is worst, then we cull this 
to set a date.  this is SO easy to do in Qtask (we just create a 
form for this).  In AltME we could create a do list, and let each 
person just add their preference and follow a format.

So be it.

Rebcon 2008 date select checklist/voting created.

Who ever posted the first one did not add their name.

I added a single Priority 100 task to serve as  template.

That be me..fixed

Hey, maybe we should have a beliefcon instead, then everyone would 
come :-)

:-D

it would be split in two spaces with a central hall between them....

the central hall being an arena for bitch fest competitions...

law and order would, of course be maintained by pirates.    ;-)

Call for topics and presenters placed in the checklist.
Sent out an email on the mailist to inform and gather input:

Dear Fellow Rebolers (of the mailist faction),


There has been some interest in a virtual gathering of Rebol developers 
and users. These discussions have been taking place in the Rebol3 
Altme World. I know there are many here that do not regularly go 
there but nonetheless would be interested in participating. The date 
and time that has been looked at is December 27th from 12:00 PM. 
How does that sound to you?


There has been no decision on the technology to be used but you're 
input would be much appreciated. We are also in need of presenters 
and/or desired topics.

To summarize, we are looking for:

An agreement on the time and date
Topics desired
Presentors
Ideas for technology to be used
Other

12:00 PM in what time zone?

I'm all for a  virtual gathering.  This could be much larger than 
in times past going that route.

Ah, my bad 12:00 Pacific time

Brian and I are in Central zone.

Then we get to sleeep in :)

Or you have more time to prepare!

Same thing :)

Ah, to program in your sleep...

Heh.

ATT Livemeeting?

Where can we find info on that?

http://attlivemeeting.com/

Thx

Don't know if they offer one time deal though.

that don't like an official link.

Me thinks we'll have to rely on a couple of different technologies 
including Altme.

skype ?

I was thinking that and certainly calling from Skype is possible. 
I just received an email from Nick Antonaccio who offered his hosted 
flash media server. Along with that we has videoconference/presentation 
applications.

Hi James,


I've got 20 rooms set up already that I use to do live online music 
lessons on a daily basis.  I think the existing format of those rooms 
could work very well as they stand.  I'll create a special room just 
for Rebol Devcon.  I'd like to show you what I've got, to see if 
it'd work for your needs.  The audio/video conference software works 
on PC/Mac/Linux, in any browser that has a fairly recent version 
of the flash plugin installed (I believe version 6 onward will work 
- 8+ will definitely work).  Aside from flash, there's no installation 
required to use the system - just go to the designated web page. 
 It will allow anyone in the room to take turns jumping onto the 
mic/camera to speak (admin can ban unwanted users), there's a text 
chat, and I've got a really simple way of sharing screen shots already 
installed in the existing room setup.  It should take only a minute 
or 2 to show presenters how it works...


I've being doing daily live online music lessons as a part of my 
commercial music lesson business for the past 4.5 years, and this 
system is the most stable and simple that I'm aware of.  It'll work 
through just about any router/firewall configuration, and it's dead 
simple to use - visitors just go the url, and they'll hear and see 
the speaker.  If they want to be seen on camera and speak, they just 
need to have a web cam and microphone installed and working.  If 
flash is running in the browser, it'll work immediately, no download 
or installs to do.


There's a video that I send to students which explains a little about 
it:  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sx5qI0GWig


The online lesson page for my business, which has basic info about 
web cams, microphones, and headphones, is here:

http://rockfactory.us/OnlineLessons.html

Please let me know if you have any questions :)


> If someone will email me personally, I can start putting together 
some 

> suggestions about how to organize and manage the presentation. 
 I need

> to get an idea of what sort of software components will be needed: 

> white board, text chat, file sharing, 1-to-many/many-to-many video 

> conferencing, etc...  I'd also need to get a close estimate beforehand

> of the number of people attending, to make sure I prepare enough 

> bandwidth and available connections for the live event (If you'd 
like,

> I've got a little Rebol sign-up script that I use in my business 
to 

> let people sign up for events, you're welcome to use that if you'd 

> like, to help organize things).  Please let me know whenever you 
get a 
> chance!
>
> - Nick Antonaccoio