World: r3wp

Sqlab, OK, I gave your odbc-lib a shot. So far so good. Thanks. I'll 
be doing some more testing over the weekend. If you know of any quirks, 
please let me know. I'm pretty much an "insert" and "Select" SQL 
guy so it should be fine. Thanks again.

sqlab - can I get a copy of your ODBC-lib as well?  The email address 
inmy profie is valid.

on the way

Does anyone know how the 2.7 SDK is distributed to previous SDK owners?

Aren't you able to freely download the latest SDK binaries?

From the same directory as the ordinary binaries from rebol.net

You know I thought I saw that but this morning I went to the main 
site and that's pretty much the same as it always has been.
Thanks. I'll take a look.

Henrik, thanks. There she was!

Is it possible to hide a button that is the button one just pressed? 
my_button: btn "test" [hide my_button]

it is probably better to not hide the button, but to disable it. 
You can find enable/disable script on rebol.org ....

Thanks Pekr

You have to be a ltitle tricky to hide it James, because it wants 
to redraw when you release the mouse button. In the past, I've set 
up a central handler and states to control what is shown, then your 
action just sets the state you want and the button will be hidden 
on the next pass (timer event).

Thanks Gregg, that is tricky. Well, it wasn't a super important item 
so I ended up using the enable/disable. Thanks anyway.

http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/gui/self-hider-btn.r

Even Better. Thanks Anton. You sure make some cool stuff.

Thankyou James.

Has anyone ever seen the "Call" word not work? I've been trying to 
simply call %/c/rebol/view.exe and it shows up in task manager but 
I never see the application. It's not just that particular app either. 
The funny thing is I was successful doing that at my work computer.

yes

try one of the options like call/show

Any idea why?

OK.

bug

Good idea Doc. That worked.

The show option, and hiding the shell window by default, was a change 
in new releases.

But if I'm not mistaken, you can't stop the shell window from flashing. 
The problem I was having was that the program I was calling wasn't 
showing up at all.

Q: "Any idea why?" call/show

A: Most of the time call is used to run background processes, and 
REBOL <= 2.7.6 did not give you the option, always flashing that 
shell window. Starting with 2.7.7 the called app (and the shell window) 
is not shown by default.

I was the first to report this problem

See posts from the 21-Mar-2008 and we talk about call, call/show 
and call/shell

Is 2.7.7 released?

No, and work on it has barely started. We will have a public development 
release of the new R3 GUI first.

Some of the same people are the ones doing development on both. Priorities 
:)

Sorry, my answer above about call was wrong. It was fixed in 2.7.6.

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Hi,
For homework, I was asked about the random number generator in 
my favorite language ... did some experiments but answered 
closed source
 to what "algorithm does it use?" for this part, I got a zero.

So, could someone with access to rebol source or internal doc 

get me information on the algorithms for 'random and 'random/secure

they are probably some flavor of linear congruent generators 
(please don't say RANDU) but multiplictive?  or mixed?  
maybe a PMMLCG? shuffling? QCG? MRG? What constants are used? 
what is the period? how many streams? 


The easiest on you would be just send me the source and let me figure 
it out 

but is that is verboten as much detail as you may send to me (privately)
would be appreciated 

note: the information will only be seen in a distilled form by my 
professor
and not kept by me.

thanks Tom

Hi Tom, I think, that the best what can be done is to put this to 
CureCode (R3 uses the same algorithm, I guess) as a documentation 
bug

posted to CureCode as #879

please use CureCode to add any comments, or even suggestions how 
to change the implementation

Updated headline to be slightly clearer. :-)

:-D

Good that we don't have an undocumented NO or SOME function :-)

ROTFL

Random: I have a simulation, where I use www.random.org data to make 
sure I am truly random

Hi Ladislav  welcome back 

I have no idea what curecode is ,  assume it is rambo5 or whatever

I don't need random numbers  myself at the moment  (I sometimes use 
hotbits )

I need to answer a homework question with something other than "don't 
know"  

I will go try to find out about curecode

Tomc: http://curecode.org/rebol3/view-tickets.rsp

Tomc, look here for the answer, though you might need to do some 
math: http://curecode.org/rebol3/ticket.rsp?id=879

Copied here: Answer: currently, there are two primary random generators:

1. old method, high speed, simple multiplicative:
    next = next * 1103515245L + 12345L;
    tmp = next & 0xffff0000;
    next = next * 1103515245L + 12345L;
    tmp |= (next >> 16);


2. much slower, SHA1() of a repeating pattern of the integer bytes 
(20 bytes total).

Hello, I have big conceptual problems with REBOL objects.  They differ 
a lot from common OOP. Inheritance is done by copying, no accessors, 
function redefinitions needs binding,  the object is composed of 
multiple blocks and I don't know how REBOL compiler interprets them.

They don't differ that much from standard prototype-based OOP. The 
only difference is that delegation is done manually.

I really ask myself why the REBOL object model is so different than 
standard OOP. I need some very good documentation but I have fount 
it nowhere. Does it exists ? Is it one of the best kept secrets ?

I have read that someone was able to buil a full class system using 
REBOL with multiple inheritance but this is a myth for me.

It only differs from class-based OOP. There are at least 3 standards 
for OOP, and only class-based OOP has inheritance.