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[!REBOL2 Releases] Discuss 2.x releases
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Reichart 26-Mar-2010 [1254] | Ok...I try to vote to...where do we do this voting? :) |
Pekr 26-Mar-2010 [1255] | Carl's cell phone? ;-) |
BrianH 26-Mar-2010 [1256] | Gregg, I would be OK with using NOT, INC and DEC instead, and said so in the original blog discussion where ++ and -- were proposed (but was outvoted). |
Steeve 26-Mar-2010 [1257] | yeaaaahh, I like much more INC and DEC. Really Z80ish |
BrianH 26-Mar-2010 [1258] | I was thinking Pascal, but REBOL does appeal more to the assembler fan (Ratio notwithstanding) :) |
Steeve 26-Mar-2010 [1259] | We also have ADD but not SUB (SUBTRACT) |
BrianH 26-Mar-2010 [1260x6] | Add is a complete verb :) That is why INC and DEC weren't chosen at first: REBOL naming standards for built-in functions abhor acronyms (ironic) and abbreviations, for the most part (FUNC and FUNCT are exceptions). That's why we break out the thesaurus when we want to come up with a shorter name, most of the time. |
Still, I would appreciate abbreviations to ++ and --, which look like ops but aren't. | |
appreciate -> prefer | |
(Looks like your campaign has some legs, Gregg. Take it to CureCode!) | |
Carl, how possible is it to get UNBIND ported to R2 as a native for 2.7.8? It's the only thing missing from R2/Forward so far. | |
And I really need it for the next bit. | |
Carl 26-Mar-2010 [1266] | UNBIND... should be easy to add. |
BrianH 26-Mar-2010 [1267] | Yeah. I can pie-in-the-sky and ask for ASSERT, APPLY and RESOLVE as well, but I've managed to clone those so they're not as pressing. |
Carl 26-Mar-2010 [1268x2] | Yes, some of those are more difficult. |
Perhaps only RESOLVE would be tough. | |
BrianH 26-Mar-2010 [1270] | Since there are mezzanines for them already, it's not a problem (though the ASSERT mezzanine still sucks). Same with MAP-EACH. |
Carl 26-Mar-2010 [1271] | Updated http://www.rebol.com/docs/changes-2-7.html |
Steeve 26-Mar-2010 [1272] | btw, about RESOLVE. I would like something like RESOLVE/SWAP where the values of the 2 context/objects are exchanged instead of being mapped in one direction only |
BrianH 26-Mar-2010 [1273] | The real user-visible improvement would come from adding the set-word feature to FOREACH. And maybe REMOVE-EACH, but that isn't as big a user win. |
Carl 26-Mar-2010 [1274] | Steeve... that's an interesting request.... what's it used for? |
Steeve 26-Mar-2010 [1275x2] | it's used for commit/rollback objects in my GUI |
it's used for commit/rollback objects in my GUI | |
BrianH 26-Mar-2010 [1277] | You could do that with a temp object and RESOLVE as is, if need be. |
Carl 26-Mar-2010 [1278] | You have a GUI? |
BrianH 26-Mar-2010 [1279] | Carl, we've been seeing this dup thing happening sometimes lately. Ladislav gets them too. |
Carl 26-Mar-2010 [1280x2] | They have different timestamps. |
Updated the doc again, adding above. Hit F5. | |
BrianH 26-Mar-2010 [1282] | You might want to add the rest of the R2/Forward additions to the list for 2.7.8 too, with checkmarks. |
Steeve 26-Mar-2010 [1283] | i clicked twice because it was not responding (grey tint), sorry |
BrianH 26-Mar-2010 [1284x2] | 2.7.8 additions from R2/Forward: RESOLVE, CD, MORE, LS, PWD, RM, MKDIR, SINGLE?, COLLECT-WORDS, INVALID-UTF?, and some compatibility fixes to ASCII? and LATIN1?. |
Those can be added to the list. | |
Carl 26-Mar-2010 [1286] | adding... |
BrianH 26-Mar-2010 [1287x2] | Though they don't need an entry each. One for the additions, one for the fixes. |
The 2.7.7 R2/Forward stuff is here: http://www.rebol.com/cgi-bin/blog.r?view=0447#comments | |
Carl 26-Mar-2010 [1289] | updated above, but left off mkdir... isn't make-dir close enough? |
BrianH 26-Mar-2010 [1290] | It's just for compatibility with R3. It doesn't really need to be there either. |
Carl 26-Mar-2010 [1291] | ahh... did it sneak into R3? |
BrianH 26-Mar-2010 [1292] | Yeah. You added it. |
Carl 26-Mar-2010 [1293] | my fault. ;) |
BrianH 26-Mar-2010 [1294] | And doesn't help me at all, because my DOS background makes me type MD instead :( |
Carl 26-Mar-2010 [1295] | ok, I've got to go find some food... but will return in a while to do a trial build with most of this done. BTW, still missing the fixes Graham made to HTTP. He mentioned it the other day. |
BrianH 26-Mar-2010 [1296] | I'll remove MKDIR from the mezzanine source in DevBase. |
Carl 26-Mar-2010 [1297] | (I thought I added his fixes a few years ago... but perhaps they were removed due to a problem, not sure.) |
BrianH 26-Mar-2010 [1298] | You should really go over the updates there soon. There are fixes to R2 and R3. |
Carl 26-Mar-2010 [1299] | what? |
BrianH 26-Mar-2010 [1300] | In DevBase. |
Carl 26-Mar-2010 [1301] | The old one or new one? |
BrianH 26-Mar-2010 [1302x2] | The new. You've been in GUI doc hell, and not noticed it. |
Can I put in the EXTRACT fix before you release 2.7.8? | |
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