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[DevCon2007] DevCon 2007
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Henrik 10-May-2007 [538] | back... anything about when new info is released on the web on R3? |
Pekr 10-May-2007 [539] | Gabriele - in what way is AltME a virtual OS? |
Gabriele 10-May-2007 [540] | henrik - i'll ask soon. i think that carl already has all the files online. |
Pekr 10-May-2007 [541] | Henrik - I expect Carl's notes be revealed with his next speach .... |
Gabriele 10-May-2007 [542] | pekr: details are not given yet. |
Pekr 10-May-2007 [543] | Gabriele - so only the core.dll becomes closed source? What about View? All open sourced? |
Gabriele 10-May-2007 [544] | afaik, yes. |
Henrik 10-May-2007 [545] | 240 kb kernel... is this completely barebones and is this bigger or smaller than R2? |
[unknown: 9] 10-May-2007 [546] | The idea is to open source a lot, and just keep the low level stuff closed, but RT will post something official. |
Pekr 10-May-2007 [547] | so now Ruby can finally have their View clone? :-) They will take rebol.dll, create one function "do-rebol", and voila :-) |
Gabriele 10-May-2007 [548x2] | it is the dll only, so it's like R2 Core without the OS dependent parts |
the actual license on code has not been announced. | |
Pekr 10-May-2007 [550] | Henrik - good question. I would like to know, if there is finally only one executable, so e.g. View is loadable module/component? Or what is the situation. I don't understand the architecture. I can imagine new SDK, where you can decide, what you put inside, but there are parts like View, external language plug-ins, etc. |
Gabriele 10-May-2007 [551] | so it's hard to say if other languages can take advantage of our code (they're probably not smart enough anyway ;) |
Pekr 10-May-2007 [552] | :-) |
Gabriele 10-May-2007 [553] | one executable - that would be AltMe 3. but developers will have more (ie you can have your own exe you compile yourself) |
Pekr 10-May-2007 [554] | Why not? rebol.dll was already out there on the net with plug-in. Jaime posted interface - you could pass it a string with rebol code, no? |
Gabriele 10-May-2007 [555] | some components are internal, some external plugins |
Pekr 10-May-2007 [556] | Gabriele - this is actually good, you know? First Ruby guys will think they got View for Ruby, next they will realise, they don't actually need Ruby, to just start and use Rebol, so they will drop Ruby :-) |
Henrik 10-May-2007 [557] | I'm a bit confused that REBOL/View == AltME now, so does it mean that GUI development is moved away from RT? |
Sunanda 10-May-2007 [558] | Henrik -- Maxim has mentioned your styles for Glayout several times, and demoed them. Said he was up at 04:00 last night, and it took him 20minutes to integrate your styles into Glayout. |
Gabriele 10-May-2007 [559] | petr, sure, apps would benefit to have rebol in, but would another language do? i don't know. maybe. |
[unknown: 9] 10-May-2007 [560] | (I may have missed this) how many people are in that room? |
Henrik 10-May-2007 [561] | sunanda, cool :-) |
Pekr 10-May-2007 [562] | 27 |
[unknown: 9] 10-May-2007 [563] | How many "dont" speak English?" |
Pekr 10-May-2007 [564] | all French? ;-) |
Gabriele 10-May-2007 [565x2] | i think view == altme in terms of products. |
don't or can't speak english? | |
Sunanda 10-May-2007 [567] | Not spoke to anyone here who has no english. The conference is all in english. |
[unknown: 9] 10-May-2007 [568] | : ) I guess I will go with "Don't" |
Pekr 10-May-2007 [569] | it seems to me new marketing plan is already being decided? SafeWorlds, AltME (messaging), AltScript - alternative name to REBOL? |
Gabriele 10-May-2007 [570] | ie for us developers nothing changes (except for the fact that altme 3 opens up a lot of opportunities etc) |
Pekr 10-May-2007 [571x2] | Sunanda ... we are just joking around .... |
or not? :-) | |
Gabriele 10-May-2007 [573] | don't - even i don't speak always english... so i guess a lot of people here |
[unknown: 9] 10-May-2007 [574] | Agreed (with Gab) |
Henrik 10-May-2007 [575] | so, Maxim is being grilled by Carl now? |
Sunanda 10-May-2007 [576] | Sorry Petr, my english very bac |
[unknown: 9] 10-May-2007 [577x2] | Regarding oppertunities. |
Maxim wearing glasses to look smart.... | |
Sunanda 10-May-2007 [579] | No being grilled. They are trading techie notes on grid engines, VID resizing etc. |
Pekr 10-May-2007 [580] | no, he is just wearing smart glasses :-) |
[unknown: 9] 10-May-2007 [581] | : ) |
Sunanda 10-May-2007 [582] | Carl wants to know Max's secrets for smoothely resizing windows. Max is telliing him :-) |
Pekr 10-May-2007 [583] | Maxim should be put on View team :-) |
[unknown: 9] 10-May-2007 [584x2] | ..........I agree. |
We have considered hiring him.....but he has a first love. | |
Sunanda 10-May-2007 [586] | It could be a job interview :-) |
Pekr 10-May-2007 [587] | along with coders like Anton, Volker and Henrik ... |
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