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[DevCon2007] DevCon 2007

Pekr
11-May-2007
[2028]
Max - geeting some ideas to be put into Elixir? :-)
Maxim
11-May-2007
[2029]
hi, you want to propose or are asking?
Pekr
11-May-2007
[2030x2]
asking :-)
I mean - after seeing Don's presentation ....
Maxim
11-May-2007
[2032x4]
hehe, well Ron is 15km from work  ;-)
so, I am priviledged   :-)
carl also seems to like liquid  :-D  and liked liquidGL a lot...
so there might be a way to get relavance and RT as the engine, and 
elixir as the desktop  :-)
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[2036]
liquidGL.. I need to roam more rebol sites..
Maxim
11-May-2007
[2037x2]
it would allow millions of nodes
his system is not specifically meant for dataflow "processing" but 
can be used to support its specification, so we could actually store 
the data into relavance, I guess.
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[2039]
i need more sugar...
Maxim
11-May-2007
[2040x2]
BTW, my demo was supposed to include a networked node system, but 
a snag in my hasty implimentation kept me from finishing in time 
for the devcon.
this allows us to send the node data inbetween two sessions of elixir 
.
Gabriele
11-May-2007
[2042x2]
you see, graham is right, you never finish anything.
:P
Maxim
11-May-2007
[2044]
hehe
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[2045]
Mmmmm beem me up scotty..... oke and now my clothes....
Maxim
11-May-2007
[2046x4]
well who said I was done ;-)
whould be done by next week, I guess I'll keep it for the actual 
file release.
500 million items "Starts" to slow down
(relavance that is!)
Henrik
11-May-2007
[2050]
that's acceptable
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[2051]
:)
Maxim
11-May-2007
[2052]
note that if we where to equate that to cell count we can easily 
multiply by 10, maybe much more.
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[2053]
how do you fit 500 Million in a Graphical presentaion ?
Maxim
11-May-2007
[2054]
you filter out what you are working on.
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[2055x2]
well as a overall display its still 1 million...
1 dot per inch..
PhilB
11-May-2007
[2057]
Who is on next?
Christian
11-May-2007
[2058]
could anyone take a high-res photo of the screen?
Anton
11-May-2007
[2059]
Q:  How many companies or organisations have implemented an associative 
database up til now ?
Christian
11-May-2007
[2060]
that'd be great, as it's very hard to recognize anything (apart from 
random windows) on the stream ...
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[2061]
Q: how quick is searching in the database...
Anton
11-May-2007
[2062]
Christian, I had a good look at their website when it was mentioned 
first here in rebol-land. I am pretty sure you can find the whole 
presentation there.
Maxim
11-May-2007
[2063]
there is no searching.
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[2064]
but in a structure of 1 million how do i get from a -> z  quickly 
?
Maxim
11-May-2007
[2065x2]
everything is indexed on entry.
every single item (cell)
Anton
11-May-2007
[2067]
They said the system requires modern CPUs because it takes more number 
crunching. (from memory about an order of magnitude more than relational 
databases.)
Maxim
11-May-2007
[2068]
notice he sais "Find" not "Search"
[unknown: 10]
11-May-2007
[2069]
oke thanks..
Robert
11-May-2007
[2070]
That's it. As always: Speed or Space.
Maxim
11-May-2007
[2071x4]
one reason is that they kick out VM.
relavance does not use one single byte in VM, so its ram never gets 
paged to disk.
so you actually need more ram because of that... but actually, the 
nodes are all on disk.
so you can read and trash all nodes, at disk speed, so its very efficient 
actually.
Christian
11-May-2007
[2075]
anton, you mean relavance.com? can't find much there in terms of 
technical information ...
Anton
11-May-2007
[2076x2]
Can't be corrupted. I've got some ways that will help. But I guess 
he means the core system is very simple, small, and used very frequently, 
therefore hard to introduce bugs into.
Christian, I would follow the original blog article link, maybe.