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[DevCon2007] DevCon 2007
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Sunanda 11-May-2007 [1933] | sadly, xml is the csv of the web :-) |
Robert 11-May-2007 [1934] | csv = complex structured values |
Dockimbel 11-May-2007 [1935] | Pekr: schedule has changed due to ...hem, you know, pb with Skype session and so on. Carl said us at the beginning that he coul addadpt his speach to the needs. Making 2, 3 or more sessions, grouping things... So modules where introduced this morning, but We will not have time to make a session on it. Hope he will pubhished his slide on it anyway |
Robert 11-May-2007 [1936] | Hey Ron, don't talk so much. Show us the system... |
Dockimbel 11-May-2007 [1937] | it comes |
Sunanda 11-May-2007 [1938] | comma separated values: dumb data for interchange between systems |
[unknown: 10] 11-May-2007 [1939] | I like to see more of the sheets from Ron... goes pritty deep..nice... |
Maxim 11-May-2007 [1940] | sunanda, specifically, that site is not the relavance site. maybe, its a local reseller of the technology. |
btiffin 11-May-2007 [1941] | Except xml still can't pass "nulls" without SOAP or some such...sad |
Maxim 11-May-2007 [1942] | relavance is canadian technology. |
Sunanda 11-May-2007 [1943] | sorry, max! |
Robert 11-May-2007 [1944] | It's just using a graph-based approach. Good idea, and really better. no query necessary just traverse the graph. |
[unknown: 10] 11-May-2007 [1945] | wow they relay digged it all out... nice.. |
Maxim 11-May-2007 [1946] | they actually have no website AFAIK. |
Robert 11-May-2007 [1947x2] | www.e4graph.com |
Adding database accessors at the leafs... well. Not so new up to now. | |
[unknown: 10] 11-May-2007 [1949] | integrating with rebol though is a nice close fit based on linquistics.. |
Maxim 11-May-2007 [1950] | robert you are not getting it... there is no tables or accessors. |
Robert 11-May-2007 [1951] | Do they have graph-layout included? |
Henrik 11-May-2007 [1952] | it sounds very much like my RE, except my RE does not have that ability to move around freely in the structure, and you have to cross relate manually. no "traversing" back and forth. you can't start in the "middle" of the tree. |
Maxim 11-May-2007 [1953x2] | not sure, but they work at a much higher level, they can aggregate contexts and relationship set based on multi-dimensional. |
henrik, nope, the concept of contexts is paramount. you are working in one dimension, relavance has n dimensions. | |
[unknown: 10] 11-May-2007 [1955x2] | pfiew... |
Ron did his home work ... | |
Pekr 11-May-2007 [1957] | What is that good for practically? Is there any commercial app using that aproach? Or is that only academic thingy? :-) |
Maxim 11-May-2007 [1958] | 14 years of development. |
[unknown: 10] 11-May-2007 [1959x2] | what...! |
great! | |
Robert 11-May-2007 [1961] | n Dimension = n entry / output edges |
Maxim 11-May-2007 [1962x3] | didn't you hear him ... he talked about that "small gang" at DARPA with |
no, its n sets of edges. | |
input/output is one dimension. its a relationship of dependency. | |
Robert 11-May-2007 [1965] | Well, than you have clustered your edges to a grouping node... |
Maxim 11-May-2007 [1966x4] | actually its "requirement" |
free your mind of a graph... each node as multiple sets of edges. | |
and you can operate based on what those sets mean to each other. | |
(something like that) | |
[unknown: 10] 11-May-2007 [1970] | haha..he's funny.. |
Henrik 11-May-2007 [1971] | well, I guess 14 years beats my 2-3 weeks of development |
Maxim 11-May-2007 [1972] | lol |
[unknown: 10] 11-May-2007 [1973] | Where is this actualy used this is complex... |
Maxim 11-May-2007 [1974] | its actually VERY simple... just like REBOL. its so simple it makes your head hurt in the begining. |
Gabriele 11-May-2007 [1975] | here petr, apps |
[unknown: 10] 11-May-2007 [1976] | Mmmmm so a live-backup of this should be a pace of cake related to the flexibilty... |
Pekr 11-May-2007 [1977] | What relation does it have to Rebol? Is he using Rebol anywhere? |
Maxim 11-May-2007 [1978x2] | are you seeing how complex the problems he is mapping? trying to map this into databases, means queries which scrub piles of data, in relavance, there no "scrubing" |
if you define enough relations and contexts, you have access to all data immediately. | |
[unknown: 10] 11-May-2007 [1980] | fantastic ! |
Dockimbel 11-May-2007 [1981] | No yet, the idea is to try to see how Revalance and REBOL can fit together |
Maxim 11-May-2007 [1982] | and it can index 128 bits of things. |
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