World: r3wp

H: problem is, no provider is going to let you install it.

C: you can do pretty much what you want apart from hosting adult 
content

Choose your own distro ... and install it.

G: well, those were different days.

Linode is similar .. Amazon is more expensive ...

Slicehost and Linode run virtual servers. So you don't have to setup 
your own box. Very nice.

G, H: really.  So, are they fast and reliable?

So I can finally run Cheyenne on a high bandwidth server.

If truly virtual, and good performance, that's a good place to checkout.

So, Do they let me listen on any ports?

I had one breakdown for some hours, but their response was very detailed. 
I use Linode. As I understand it, Slicehost were recently purchased 
by Rackspace (buyouts = alarm bells).

I use Amazon EC2 and it's reliable to a point .. if it goes down 
I just start another instance ... and in 6 months, I've only had 
to do that once.

You can save images of your entire site and just restart from that.

And yes, you can listen on what you like... you define the firewall 
settings

The only gripe I have is not much RAM (384 MB), but still for 20 
bucks/month. As a side effect, I use it now for IRC and other minor 
services, like makedoc and some source hosting.

Do they allow you to custom config?

If so, 384MB is fine. chop chop

lol, Slicehost.com: "No contracts, no setup fees."

and you can cancel at any time, if you don't like it.

This actually looks pretty good. I was leaning toward Amazon... but...

I chose Linode, because they offer a bit more for the same money. 
But it's probably a matter of taste.

If can cancel anytime, then why not try both?

well, go ahead :-) redundancy is good.

This is quite interesting, esp if we can run REBOL as the primary 
services.

Carl - how goes rebol.com redesign? Do you have any gfx proposals 
already?

Amazon is Small Instance (Default) 1.7 GB of memory, 1 EC2 Compute 
Unit (1 virtual core with 1 EC2 Compute Unit), 160 GB of local instance 
storage, 32-bit platform
If you commit to a 3 year term it is only $300 per year

maybe we should move out of this group?

P: yes, move to other group. I will respond.

$300  vs linode of $240 pa.

Forget all that.. think WEBSOCKETS!

Question: what about connect latency?

moving to ~science

Carl, I already do. You can see my site at: http://97.107.135.89/www.hmkdesign.dk/project.rsp?id=vid-ext-kit&page=info

Frankly, the biggest problem I have is long lags/dropouts on connection 
times.

Is this for altme?

or IOS?

H: cool. Cheyenne.

G: all.

My site on EC2 is private .. http://gchiu.no-ip.biz:8000/

Henrik: nice!

I'm hosting 5 virtual sites on mine using Cheyenne ...

Carl, all I can say is that I've had much fewer connection dropouts 
with my Linode than what I observe through AltME. It may not reflect 
your situation, but it just looks far more stable to me. Also you 
can specify where you want your server placed, and so have multiple 
accounts in different physical locations.

H: This AltME world runs from a different provider (via rebol.net), 
so is not typical.

Dockimbel, yep, nice and stable. Love it.

I'd be quite interested in testing R3 Chat on Cheyenne. Right now, 
it must drive the rebol.net server crazy on CGI.

(It pipes all R3 Chat connections via a CGI proxy.)

Amazon charge only for uptime .. at 8c an hour.

So, you can test for a couple of hours and then quit.  Want to run 
a windows 2003 or 2008 server to test?  Start them up and pay 12 
c an h our.

CGI proxy? They still make that stuff ;)

Much more flexible I suspect than Linode or Slicehost