World: r3wp

some commercial stuff using liquid will be released publicly in a 
short while (within a few weeks maybe sooner).

what do you mean commercial...stuff you have doen for clients or 
apps you are selling?

client work which will be released as open source.

sounds cool...eager to check out...

I'm really excited... this is probably the furthest I've pushed liquid 
outside of elixir and so far, its the most stable part of my development 
cycle.  View being at the other end of that spectrum.

coming back to your reflexions on a liquid based processing network, 
it recalls me a distributed code programming language : "wave system", 
developed in the 90's, and allowing to spread a code in a large and 
unstructured network for neighbour to neighbour, wher each node executes 
a part of the code, and provides a part of the information requested, 
and transmits. It is unfortunately difficult to find info on this 
system, which was developed by Peter Sapaty. It seems that it was 
recently used in a light version for network problems studies : "wiseman" 
http://www.ece.ubc.ca/~vleung/IWCMC2008Keynote VLeung.pdf , 
and http://www.ece.ubc.ca/~sergiog/wiseman/WisemanManual.pdf

very interesting talk  I'll read it to the end  its close to my idea 
for sure  :-)

just thought I'd share that I've successfully optimized liquid by 
a huge margin, just by removing all the verbose print statements 
in the code.


10 minutes of deleting code... equals to an order of magnitude more 
responsiveness in some items of a graphic application I'm working 
on !

if only all of life where this simple  ;-D

Max, I will bite the bullet and will see if I get a graph engine 
done in C and attched to R3 via an extension.

I'm sure you can  :-)

note that I already have access to a fully functional and highly 
optimised C-based graph engine which allows me to create billions 
of nodes, and much more.  


Integrating that system into REBOL is part of my current contract 
work.

Will you tell us what engine it is?

I expect it being Max own implementation ... Liquid, globs, and all 
his stuff ...

In C? I doubt that...

Nope, it's C (or maybe C++, I forget). He prototyped it in REBOL 
then went native for speed/scale.

its not my engine, and am not at liberty for now... it will become 
public at some point though, its not my code, so I'm under NDA.

Ah, too bad. Still, sounds fun :)

The engine will use liquid's flexible interpreted messaging overlayed 
on the other graph engine which I will use for scalability in sheer 
volume of connections and nodes I can allocate.  just a portion of 
the tree usually needs to be in RAM at any given time, and in fact, 
parts of processing tree can now reside on different computers since 
the graph engine is refered to... it should be quite fun to use.


this will be tied in to the OpenGL and scream core scene-description 
engine as one cohesive toolset.


in this system, the binary nodes will actually be optional and should 
be invisible when used from the rebol application's point of view.