World: r3wp

Or, any View experts here .... Anton??

the plugin doesn't seem to show up in task manager.

I had always imagined that the view.dll ran just like View in terms 
of speed.

I looks like events are flowing too much. I guess events have to 
"traverse" the browser and then go to view.dll.

Maybe you should try an event filtering like romano/gabriele's one. 
eat.r is in rebol.org, but is old. I think there was an earlier version 
somewhere (Romano's web site : url ?)

I looks = It looks

Hmm.

I guess I could bring up the paint in it's own window so that it 
is outside the browser

I'lll give that a go.

the browser makes a nice container though allowing me to scroll the 
paint applet

I thought about enclosing the image inside <canvas> tags .. but doesn't 
work.

Yes, that works better, taking the paint surface out of the browser 
into it's own window.

graham, i think i remember the pluging getting a lot of mouse events 
(more than the standalone view). i think this was a IE thing.

you could solve using something like event compression etc.

Oh well, using it's own window also works :)

Anyone got the plugin to work with FF3 ?

http://code.google.com/p/nativeclient/

so you have rebol running ??

Nice - so web guys are cheating on us, RIA followers, right? First 
they claim web is the mantra. Then they create new browser to even 
more split browser/standards penetration, then they allow native 
code to be hooked. Surely, to make some difference, this one will 
not be compatible with NS type plugins, to make it even more difficult 
for devs ...

Would this "Native CLient"  run on any hardware that is not  x86?

iirc they are using some x86 specific features to enforce security, 
so my guess is no.

Is there any point in the REBOl.org Script Library supporting the 
plugin any more?


There are 15 scripts that are tagged as runable in the plugin. But 
none of them do in recent browers.
    http://www.rebol.org/st-topic-details.r?tag=platform//plugin

for historical purposes?

Is there a reason to remove them? Adding a note about compatibility 
would be good, but removing them means losing a bit of reference 
material. I don't know the last version of IE it works under, but 
I actually have some old things that use it. I still have IE6 here 
for running those. :-\

How ironic. REBOL keeping IE6 alive

The REBOL Plugin is less safe to run than IE6, so maybe not.

Well, it's keeping IE6 alive at least at Gregg's

To answer Sunanda's question: I would concur that there is no point 
in supporting the plug-in any more. It would be wise to archive the 
run-plugin scripts somewhere but I don't feel they need to be maintained.


I assume that you didn't intend to remove the [plugin] scripts from 
the Library.

That's probably as clear as mud. By "run-plugin" scripts I mean the 
ones on Rebol.org that allow users to run [plugin] scripts directly 
in their browser from the Library.

Thanks for the comments.

Even Microsoft is eagerly promoting the retirement of IE6:
   http://ie6countdown.com/

I think we can help that by disabling the plugin feature at REBOL.org 
:)


Peter -- that would not mean deleting the scripts -- they work fine 
if downloaded, just like other scripts. It would mean, in part, disabling 
the special "run in plugin" link that appears when you view them

That's what I thought. I would disble the 'run in plugin' link if 
I were you.

Thanks.


I've tweaked the code so the plugin links are only visible to logged-in 
members; similarly the plugin will only attempt to run if you are 
logged-in. So casual visitors will not see it.


If there is ever a viable plugin for modern browsers, I'd be happy 
to reenable the public links.

Sounds good to me.

From @MaxV
New Rebol plugin for R2: 
you can visit: http://www.maxvessi.net/rebsite/plugin/index.html

to test if it works, tha pages contain some scripts. If you want, 
I can adder more...

Wow that is really cool. I downloaded and tested under Opera. Works 
very well.
Just a few notes: bubbles takes too much cpu time,

And gfx effect crushed (Opera hanged) when I tried all the effects 
then back to Invert (the first one)

Yes, bubbles take a little too time the first time it's launched, 
but it's very impressive,; so I put it first.
If you want more scripts, just email me: [maxint-:-tiscali-:-it]

is that just rebranded RT's old plugin, or any new implementation?

it would be cool to have R3 based one, as the gfx engine is really 
enhanced

It would be cool to have an R3-based one for the security enhancements. 
R2 isn't secure enough for the browser.

Following wiki article claims, that there is only 15 functions needed 
to produce a plugin interface. I wonder - with R3 and extensions, 
wouldn't it be "rather easy" for a C skilled person, to create a 
R3 plugin for a plugin? :-) 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPAPI

I asked Carl to free plugin source several times, sadly with zero 
response each time I tried. I think that plugin was not part of RT's 
revenue stream, so it is a pity it never happened, as someone could 
pick-up, do some fixes, improvements, etc.

There are a million things that are rather easy for a C skilled person, 
and that's the problem: there are fewer C programmers than tasks

New Plugin...works in Chrome very well

another challenge, which would render this plugin really useful, 
and exploitable on public sites, would be to get also the versions 
for linux and mac-os.

I just wonder, if R3 could be made a DLL too? We have R3 core library, 
and the hostkit sources. Then we have rather powerfull extension 
architecture, which could serve to link to plugin library. Having 
R3 available would be much more interesting imo, as it has new gfx 
core.

amacleod: where did you put the DLL, witch folder ?

c:\documents and settings\user name\local settings\application settings\google\chrome\application\version 
# in the root of version. This is for Chrome

Ah, need to put the files directly in the Application folder (I had 
created a Plugins folder first).
Thanks Alan.

Should it be "application data" rather than "application settings"? 
I don't have the latter, so maybe an OS version difference.

Application data
 on XP.

I tried that, but no luck. Will try again soon to see if it was operator 
error.