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Pekr 18-May-2007 [1940x2] | heh, the window drag - interesting consequence :-) |
It is REAL pity proxy problem was not fixed. It was so annoying show stopper, that we could be light-years ahead. Stupid decision to postpone that single fix. | |
Oldes 18-May-2007 [1942x2] | I thing that bigger problem is, that you can run only one instance |
ech.. so the dragging is not working in Opera... never mind... it was not mentioned to be used inside browsers | |
Pekr 18-May-2007 [1944] | that might be initial problem, but still better to run one of them, than none .... |
Oldes 18-May-2007 [1945] | I'm using at least one plugin script all the time |
Rebolek 18-May-2007 [1946] | this will be adressed in r3 according to carl's speech |
Pekr 18-May-2007 [1947x2] | the plugin itself has nothing in common with rebol - it is just a wrapper, and latest incarnation of plug-in was able to handle multiple instances. |
the development was stalled because of security concerns, and Josh was working on some document, which he was supposed to have "out really soon". Then he announced that Carl set him another goal. I think noone is working on plug-in part recently. | |
Rebolek 18-May-2007 [1949] | actually as I understood that, the plugin part will be open source, so I'm not sure, if it's going to be done by RT themselves |
Pekr 18-May-2007 [1950x2] | I hope plug-in wrapper is open-source too. Tighter securite is something I agree with (after long discussion of Anton and Brian I believe it is a necessity). The idea was to limit amount of plug-in writeable data to disc, amount of max windows opened, etc., and to have certificates based aproach. You would buy certifikace and hence could develop full fledged apps with SDK. |
what I can see a problem still, is, rebol "windowing". We use dialog box aproach. If I have window embedded in plug-in, and want to raise requester e.g., it will pop-up, and hece could be blocked. That is why I suggested, that maybe VID+ should think of native rebol windowing ... not sure what others think about it ... | |
Oldes 18-May-2007 [1952] | I think this is not blocked http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rebol/plugin/test-request-file.html |
Pekr 18-May-2007 [1953] | well, its system dialog box ... try rebol based one? Maybe there would be no trouble, dunno .... you would also have to check with adblock |
Oldes 18-May-2007 [1954] | But I'm sure, that the Rebol security requestor cannot be worst, as most of the file paths it's asking to allow are not visible (if they are not in root) |
Maxim 18-May-2007 [1955] | I really think the current plugin has its uses, its very cool to have an unrestricted plugin for some applications. but a more protected environment would be much easier to disseminate at large. |
Pekr 18-May-2007 [1956] | it could be at least used to present rebol view capabilities ... docs could be hidden, untill there is new version out with proper security ... |
Maxim 18-May-2007 [1957x3] | we need the docs back on line!!!! |
I wanted to make an elixir in browser, put now, I can't! | |
just to make it easier to show-off to non-rebolers | |
Oldes 18-May-2007 [1960] | Pekr.. good thing is, that I was able for the first time install the FF and Opera version without problem |
Maxim 18-May-2007 [1961] | imagine people's eyes when they will see they can have two browers speaking to each other without the need for a server! |
Oldes 18-May-2007 [1962] | :-) |
Maxim 18-May-2007 [1963x3] | yes its actually installs with no hassels (almost) |
in IE the install is flawless... on FF you have to know about "allowing" install, and usually that's not obvious for the non-techie. | |
but it works, when you understand the concept, and just ask for install after having allowed it. | |
Oldes 18-May-2007 [1966] | I§m sure plugin is very important as it will be much more esier to get Rebol on client side than on servers... all the PHP server admins are too lazy to allow something new |
Maxim 18-Jun-2007 [1967] | hi guys, I can't find ANY example of calling javascript within the plugin ! can any one just give an example where I get some values from the DOM (I'd like to retrive the current URL from which the plugin was called, so I can talk to the server... a tool I built needs to be setup for each site... (without changing the code... its compressed.) |
Henrik 18-Jun-2007 [1968x2] | maxim, I made this a long time ago, shortly after the first plugin came out: http://hmkdesign.dk/dom/curvyclean.html http://hmkdesign.dk/dom/<-- all files can be seen here |
nothing is finished, but you can at least see some DOM calls somewhere in there :-) | |
Maxim 18-Jun-2007 [1970x3] | thanks : -) |
a ha... do-browser :-) | |
henrik, I don't seem to be able to retrieve values from javascript... how do I get values FROM do-brower .... do you know? | |
Henrik 18-Jun-2007 [1973] | hmm... I'm not sure about that. I don't think I got that far. |
Maxim 18-Jun-2007 [1974x2] | a ha... just figured it out... simply put the variable as the last thing in the script: rebol [] view layout [ button "test" [view/new layout compose [vtext (do-browser {var url = document.location.href; url})]]] |
the above will show a small page which has a button... click on it and the current URL is poped up in a new window :-) yippee! | |
Henrik 18-Jun-2007 [1976] | yes, javascript is quite amazing |
Chris 18-Jun-2007 [1977] | I think this is for an older version of the plugin: http://www.ross-gill.com/r/tile-test/ Need to look into bringing it up to date... |
amacleod 7-Apr-2008 [1978] | I was playing around with some of the Demos for the plugin. They were working fine and then I got hte request to download the active-x component. I downloadred thing perhaps I had an older version installed but now the plugin is not working. I get a REBOL/VIEWdll window with "Show on face in closed window." printed inside. Anyone? |
amacleod 17-Apr-2008 [1979] | I downloaded version 7 of he cab file. All the demos point to version 5. You should not need to go serach for a new version and manulaly delete old versions. The docs also state that if there are version #'s in hte rebol head of the app the plugin will aluto update the cashed version if a new version is pointed to. I can't get this to work. Is this working? |
Gregg 17-Apr-2008 [1980] | I haven't tried using anything past v5. We got it stable and then just left it alone. |
amacleod 3-Sep-2008 [1981] | I just discovered Tim Wylie's Wrapper for the rebol plugin. It works for FireFox3 Google's Chrome and Opera. It allows you to have multiple rebol apps running in seperate draggable windows inside the browser window. I tried it on opera mini and although the "dock and Application laucher windows show and app windows open the apps do not seem to run. I'm not sure how the wrapper works if its on the server side or client side. It worked on a fresh install of opera without me downloading the plugin dll (but it may have been there from a previous experiment.) Anyone know if opera mini could run this? This could be a great way to get rebol apps on my mobile phone |
BrianH 3-Sep-2008 [1982] | You would need a rebol dll for the operating system and hardware of your phone. If it is not running Linux you may be out of luck, and if it is you would need to request a build. The WinCE build of REBOL is an old port of /Core for the handheld pc version of WinCE with no support for onscreen keyboards or Smartphone edition, and there is no build for Symbian. |
amacleod 3-Sep-2008 [1983x2] | I was able to use it on my linux box with firefox. I know there is know plugin for linux firefox and I do not have any form of the plugin on that machine. |
My mistake. The front end ran but rebol apps do not on the linux box...never mind | |
Graham 9-Oct-2008 [1985x5] | What is the status of the plugin ? Does it work for FF 3? IE 7? Chrome ? |
IE 7 works. FF3 gives this error Firefox could not install the file at http://www.rebol.com/plugin/rebol-mozb2.xpi because: Install script not found -204 | |
>> exists? http://www.rebol.com/plugin/rebol-mozb2.xpi connecting to: www.rebol.com == true | |
I am thinking of building something that will allow me to annotate faxes | |
If I use the paint program in the library ... as a plugin | |
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