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[Plugin-2] Browser Plugins
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Maxim 9-Mar-2007 [1918] | but if the client is doing internal work, he can set the proxy manually no? and in this case the plugin works? |
Pekr 9-Mar-2007 [1919] | I checked some older discussions, and it seems you can place user.r into Sandbox dir. The trouble is, I can't find it right now, as it changed in latest plug-in incarnation :-) Will try at home ... |
Louis 6-May-2007 [1920] | Did the plug-in ever get finished? |
Gregg 6-May-2007 [1921] | There is a 2.6.2 release that doesn't say "Beta" on it, but I don't know if that qualifies, as there may still be some issues, depending on how you want to use it. I'm using it, knowing there are limitations. |
Louis 6-May-2007 [1922] | I want to use it to show a narrated slide presentation on my web site. Can it safely be used for that? |
Gregg 6-May-2007 [1923] | I haven't used sound in it, but a slideshow should be safe. If you already have a desktop version of the app, it should be easy enough to set up a page to try it under the plugin. |
Louis 7-May-2007 [1924] | Thanks, Gregg. As soon as I can find time, I'll try to get it to work. |
xavier 13-May-2007 [1925] | the plugin version i used wasnt the good one for the demo on the site, but i could use the chat on compkarori. Can someone tell me how much version of the plugin exists and wich is the last stable one ? |
Oldes 18-May-2007 [1926x3] | as there is missing doc.. how should be placed the plugin2 object on the page? |
My old remake of even older dockimbel's remake - R-box game is online again... http://box.lebeda.web/~hmm/rbox2/ | |
and because it took me some time... there is this important difference, if you center faces inside plugin: ;system/version == 2.6.2.3.1 center-face: func [ obj [object!] /with face [object!] ][ if none? face [face: system/view/screen-face] obj/offset: max 0x0 face/size - obj/size / 2 + face/offset obj ] ;system/version == 2.7.5.3.1 center-face: func [ {Center a face relative to parent (screen for windows) or a sibling face.} obj [object!] /with "Center relative to a sibling face." face [object!] ][ if none? face [face: any [obj/parent-face system/view/screen-face]] obj/offset: max 0x0 face/size - obj/size / 2 + either with [face/offset] [0x0] obj ] | |
Rebolek 18-May-2007 [1929] | it's http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rbox2/ |
Oldes 18-May-2007 [1930x2] | ech.. yes |
and it's probably know problem, that Rebol plugin is not using browsers proxy settings | |
Pekr 18-May-2007 [1932x2] | hey, this little game works for me here ... |
I did not expect it ... so we don't have proxy here ... hmm ... the proxy problem is a pity, because other than that, we could already use plug-in ... | |
Rebolek 18-May-2007 [1934] | Pekr are you also able to post score online? |
Oldes 18-May-2007 [1935x4] | maybe I could connect it with my chat server:] |
and have multiplayer rooms... but... still waiting for R3 first | |
anyway it's quite interesting that I can drag the window across all the web space... this is not possible with Flash (without JS calls)... | |
there is just a problem that if I drag the window outside, there is no chance to get i back... only reload:) | |
Pekr 18-May-2007 [1939x3] | I just tried, yes, it works ... |
heh, the window drag - interesting consequence :-) | |
It is REAL pity proxy problem was not fixed. It was so annoying show stopper, that we could be light-years ahead. Stupid decision to postpone that single fix. | |
Oldes 18-May-2007 [1942x2] | I thing that bigger problem is, that you can run only one instance |
ech.. so the dragging is not working in Opera... never mind... it was not mentioned to be used inside browsers | |
Pekr 18-May-2007 [1944] | that might be initial problem, but still better to run one of them, than none .... |
Oldes 18-May-2007 [1945] | I'm using at least one plugin script all the time |
Rebolek 18-May-2007 [1946] | this will be adressed in r3 according to carl's speech |
Pekr 18-May-2007 [1947x2] | the plugin itself has nothing in common with rebol - it is just a wrapper, and latest incarnation of plug-in was able to handle multiple instances. |
the development was stalled because of security concerns, and Josh was working on some document, which he was supposed to have "out really soon". Then he announced that Carl set him another goal. I think noone is working on plug-in part recently. | |
Rebolek 18-May-2007 [1949] | actually as I understood that, the plugin part will be open source, so I'm not sure, if it's going to be done by RT themselves |
Pekr 18-May-2007 [1950x2] | I hope plug-in wrapper is open-source too. Tighter securite is something I agree with (after long discussion of Anton and Brian I believe it is a necessity). The idea was to limit amount of plug-in writeable data to disc, amount of max windows opened, etc., and to have certificates based aproach. You would buy certifikace and hence could develop full fledged apps with SDK. |
what I can see a problem still, is, rebol "windowing". We use dialog box aproach. If I have window embedded in plug-in, and want to raise requester e.g., it will pop-up, and hece could be blocked. That is why I suggested, that maybe VID+ should think of native rebol windowing ... not sure what others think about it ... | |
Oldes 18-May-2007 [1952] | I think this is not blocked http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rebol/plugin/test-request-file.html |
Pekr 18-May-2007 [1953] | well, its system dialog box ... try rebol based one? Maybe there would be no trouble, dunno .... you would also have to check with adblock |
Oldes 18-May-2007 [1954] | But I'm sure, that the Rebol security requestor cannot be worst, as most of the file paths it's asking to allow are not visible (if they are not in root) |
Maxim 18-May-2007 [1955] | I really think the current plugin has its uses, its very cool to have an unrestricted plugin for some applications. but a more protected environment would be much easier to disseminate at large. |
Pekr 18-May-2007 [1956] | it could be at least used to present rebol view capabilities ... docs could be hidden, untill there is new version out with proper security ... |
Maxim 18-May-2007 [1957x3] | we need the docs back on line!!!! |
I wanted to make an elixir in browser, put now, I can't! | |
just to make it easier to show-off to non-rebolers | |
Oldes 18-May-2007 [1960] | Pekr.. good thing is, that I was able for the first time install the FF and Opera version without problem |
Maxim 18-May-2007 [1961] | imagine people's eyes when they will see they can have two browers speaking to each other without the need for a server! |
Oldes 18-May-2007 [1962] | :-) |
Maxim 18-May-2007 [1963x3] | yes its actually installs with no hassels (almost) |
in IE the install is flawless... on FF you have to know about "allowing" install, and usually that's not obvious for the non-techie. | |
but it works, when you understand the concept, and just ask for install after having allowed it. | |
Oldes 18-May-2007 [1966] | I§m sure plugin is very important as it will be much more esier to get Rebol on client side than on servers... all the PHP server admins are too lazy to allow something new |
Maxim 18-Jun-2007 [1967] | hi guys, I can't find ANY example of calling javascript within the plugin ! can any one just give an example where I get some values from the DOM (I'd like to retrive the current URL from which the plugin was called, so I can talk to the server... a tool I built needs to be setup for each site... (without changing the code... its compressed.) |
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