World: r3wp

do you know if we can properly resize the plugin size using javascript? 
or will in not refresh?

i hope that still works. Andi hope  javascript can read/write thru 
net. Or  only with ajax&callback?

do not know. I  guess Chris knows.

Chris?

But byreloading a div?

I thought by setting the object's size properties through the DOM... 
I haven't tried.

Our designer. Played a lot with the plugin IIRC.

Havent tried too, so i dont know.

Maxim, you can save files from plugin, I'm using it.

The files are here: c:\Documents and Settings\your_user_name\Local 
Settings\Temp\REBOL\Plugin\

Maxim, Local Settings is hidden folder and that's why you haven't 
found the file I think.

aha !!  thanks!

Hmm, every demo I've tried using a fresh install has issues of some 
type or another.. trying to decide if this this is alpha, or beta 
at best?

I would say, that current plugin is still in alpha version

has anyone succeeded in embeding the plug within a div which is persistent 
 or resident in some way (like in another frame, or something) so 
that browsing the same page twice actually just shows the previously 
launched plugin (so as to not have to actually restart it everytime...) 
???


I guess this is not just rebol pluging related, as the same effect 
would be desired for a flash based plugin too.

I'm not sure if understand what do you want. If you want to leave 
page and come back without stopping plugin inside the page - it's 
not possible

is there a way to store web content in another frame and swap it 
on demand?

Its been a long time since I've played with javascript... so I'm 
not only rusty, I'm shut. ;-)

Hmm....  You could probably just store it in a string and swap it 
in and out of a DIV tag.  Usually much easier than messing with frames.....

Yep, just use -- document.getElementById('mydiv').innerHTML = mystring;

is the proxy issue something that can be patched via mezz or is this 
really something that has to be done within the binary/

no, it can't imo ...

I hope that Carl sees all this nonsense and that he understands, 
that unless he can employ 10 full time programmers... he has to make 
all of this open source and relinkeable like python. (even if the 
core interpreter is closed)  99% of bugs are not related to it.

hmm, actually I re-read my private exchange with Josh, and it seems 
Rebol detects proxy itself, if manual proxy config is set.

yet more hope in R3

Maybe the trouble was, that plug-in tried to connect before such 
code was applied during boot, dunno ...

yes its possible, the boot sequence of REBOL seems a bit hard to 
manipulate...

having had some little thing done by carl for me resulted in no change 
of the startup really.. (the special encap version)

I really wanted interactive dos shell session...  :-(  but that meant 
a little bit more code to detect if we where *in* a dos prompt already 
and doesn't seem trivial as per Carl's explanations.

proxy detection happens in get-net-info ... right after Rebol boot 
...

which checks the registry of IE right?

source get-net-info

get-reg is used everywhere... depending on the def browser.

registry functions are unset imo after the boot, because of security 
reasons. The question is - if View can detect proxy automatically, 
why plug-in can't.

not patching this simple issue was a bit of mistake imo ... community 
could put xy interesting demos online. But it is not worth it, if 
99% of corporate ppl are behind the proxy.

yes. RT is good at giving solutions, but lacks vision into market 
needs.

so they give out the good solution for the wrong market  and such 
details get placed low, when in reality, they are primordial... just 
like the interactive DOS sessions, and stupid current directory issue 
under DOS, which renders Encap virtually useless in many conditions.

but if the client is doing internal work, he can set the proxy manually 
no?  and in this case the plugin works?

I checked some older discussions, and it seems you can place user.r 
into Sandbox dir. The trouble is, I can't find it right now, as it 
changed in latest plug-in incarnation :-) Will try at home ...

Did the plug-in ever get finished?

There is a 2.6.2 release that doesn't say "Beta" on it, but I don't 
know if that qualifies, as there may still be some issues, depending 
on how you want to use it. I'm using it, knowing there are limitations.

I want to use it to show a narrated slide presentation on my web 
site. Can it safely be used for that?

I haven't used sound in it, but a slideshow should be safe. If you 
already have a desktop version of the app, it should be easy enough 
to set up a page to try it under the plugin.

Thanks, Gregg. As soon as I can find time, I'll try to get it to 
work.

the plugin version i used wasnt the good one for the demo on the 
site, but i could use the chat on compkarori.  Can someone tell me 
how much version of the plugin exists and wich is the last stable 
one ?

as there is missing doc.. how should be placed the plugin2 object 
on the page?

My old remake of even older dockimbel's remake - R-box game is online 
again... http://box.lebeda.web/~hmm/rbox2/

and because it took me some time... there is this important difference, 
if you center faces inside plugin:
;system/version == 2.6.2.3.1

center-face: func [
    obj [object!]
    /with face [object!]
][
    if none? face [face: system/view/screen-face]
    obj/offset: max 0x0 face/size - obj/size / 2 + face/offset
    obj
]

;system/version == 2.7.5.3.1
center-face: func [

    {Center a face relative to parent (screen for windows) or a sibling 
    face.}
    obj [object!]
    /with "Center relative to a sibling face." face [object!]
][

    if none? face [face: any [obj/parent-face system/view/screen-face]]

    obj/offset: max 0x0 face/size - obj/size / 2 + either with [face/offset] 
    [0x0]
    obj
]

it's http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rbox2/

ech.. yes