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Graham
15-Oct-2008
[7364]
that's a convention ... regarding!
Henrik
15-Oct-2008
[7365]
Pekr, the fuzziness is due to antialiased edges hitting between two 
pixels, although jpeg compression makes it a bit more fuzzy. It's 
everywhere, it seems.
Graham
15-Oct-2008
[7366]
the screenshots?
Henrik
15-Oct-2008
[7367]
No, in the app. My screenshot is in PNG, btw.
Graham
15-Oct-2008
[7368]
So, using VID+, the layouts are all fuzzy???
Henrik
15-Oct-2008
[7369x2]
it seems. :-) Maybe Carl wants us to feel all warm (the gold and 
red colors) and fuzzy (the... well :-))
http://rebol.hmkdesign.dk/files/r3/gui/002.png
Graham
15-Oct-2008
[7371]
those fields don't accept focus!
Henrik
15-Oct-2008
[7372]
It doesn't seem there is working focus yet. The editing works about 
as good/bad as VID3 for now.
Graham
15-Oct-2008
[7373x2]
it was a joke!
so, using groups like Max had ...
Henrik
15-Oct-2008
[7375]
:-) Now that I look at the code, I can see the entire event system 
is grabbed from VID3.
Geomol
15-Oct-2008
[7376]
The labels and "text" in the fields don't have antialiasing, "text" 
in area has. I hope, the overall amount of aliasing (fuzzyness) can 
be adjusted.
Henrik
15-Oct-2008
[7377]
I think there are two levels to it at this time (on/off), but I think 
Cyphre has said that the gamma can be adjusted. Carl also once said 
that he hates antialiased text, which is probably why the smaller 
text is non-antialiased.
Geomol
15-Oct-2008
[7378x4]
Oh, and it looks interesting! :-)
More screenshots: http://www.rebol.net/wiki/GUI_Basics


Carl write, it's a prototype skin, and he uses jpeg (with artefacs), 
so those are probably just to feed the hungry ones.
*artefacts* or *artifacts*
Isn't "artefacts" the more correct spelling?
Gives more hits.
Robert
15-Oct-2008
[7382]
Shouldn't AREA-SIZE read SIZE in the circle style example on the 
GUI-Styles Wiki page?
Henrik
15-Oct-2008
[7383]
Geomol, perhaps one is the archeological kind and the other is what 
is in jpeg? :-)
Gabriele
15-Oct-2008
[7384]
robert, if i understood correctly, area-size is the size of the area 
you can draw into, size is the size of the whole face. in the examples, 
area-size: size - 2x2 (or something like that)
Henrik
15-Oct-2008
[7385]
http://rebol.hmkdesign.dk/files/r3/gui/001.mov

Framerate is about half of what it really is.
Graham
15-Oct-2008
[7386x3]
nice ...
like Ashley's tour.r
but with animation ( sliding faces )
Pekr
15-Oct-2008
[7389x2]
Carl is TV guy, he likes colorful designs :-) Buttons with shadowed 
text are not pretty :-)
In GUI_Basics chapter, in Opinion survey example, there is 'group 
used without explicitly stating number of columns. How does such 
group know, how to layout its elements? Is it simply laying all elements 
in one row by default?
Henrik
15-Oct-2008
[7391]
Yes, one row.
Pekr
15-Oct-2008
[7392x2]
What is: panel 80.200.180.80? Color with alpha?
Is there english word "pastel"? That is how current skin should be 
called :-)
Henrik
15-Oct-2008
[7394]
yes, alpha
Pekr
15-Oct-2008
[7395x2]
uh, pity it can't be solved some other easy way. I don't like implicit 
arguments, as from stylize source code nothing implies, that there 
is any such variable available:

            on-resize: [ ; arg is the size
                face/gob/size: arg
Isn't  there a typo?

    faced: [
        bar-color: teal
        bar-size: 1x1 ; modified by the progress % value
        bar-fill: ; generated from bar-color option
    ]


What is going bar-fill to be set to? It is last element of the block, 
and if you do object from it, it should have some value to be set 
to, no?
Henrik
15-Oct-2008
[7397]
it's not a typo, but I don't know yet how that works.
Graham
15-Oct-2008
[7398]
the implicit argument?
Pekr
15-Oct-2008
[7399]
Graham - what are you asking?
Graham
15-Oct-2008
[7400]
nothing
Gregg
15-Oct-2008
[7401x3]
I wouldn't use pastel to describe the color scheme.
Artifacts
 is correct American spelling, though maybe no English. :-)
*not* English.
Gabriele
16-Oct-2008
[7404]
Petr, from what I see group seems to work just like in VID3. Layout 
as row if no columns are specified.
Henrik
16-Oct-2008
[7405]
Status: Fixing more bugs and I'm starting to work on the real skin.


So far, skinning is quite simple but not unlike VID3. It shares some 
of the same possiblities although there are certain restrictions 
in place to simplify and make it easier to understand. Unlike VID3, 
gobs are prearranged, so there is a single DRAW gob and a text gob 
on top of it and during skinning, I'm not even aware of the presence 
of gobs. If the skin does not work, the face is invisible.


I've been told to hold back on using VID until Carl has tried building 
some apps and dialogs with it to eliminate usage problems.


Pictures are trickling in on the aforementioned URL once in a while. 
:-)
Pekr
16-Oct-2008
[7406]
prearranged gobs and plumbing of text gob over draw gob instead of 
real free multi-gob design does not sound good to me ...
Graham
16-Oct-2008
[7407]
So, you're calling it VID??
Henrik
16-Oct-2008
[7408x2]
Graham, oops, I guess. :-)
http://rebol.hmkdesign.dk/files/r3/gui/index.rsp

Easier access to images.
Pekr
16-Oct-2008
[7410x2]
http://www.rebol.net/r3blogs/0151.html-GUI: Colored buttons - Attributes 
vs Styles
Henrik - as I can see you are playing with buttons and its possible 
design - here's some comparisons from the time of View 1.3 project

 - http://www.xidys.com/rebol-screenshots/btn-comparison.jpg


I liked version of buttons from Chris, as it was kind of mild, not 
so much pastel .... just for inspiration, as I bet you have your 
own ideas :-)
Graham
16-Oct-2008
[7412]
the old windows style was to include an icon in the button as well.
Henrik
17-Oct-2008
[7413]
So far the fonts are incorrect, I but am working on how to change 
the shadow type to something more appealing.