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Graham 11-Oct-2007 [4967] | I would like to resurrect it if I can .. if memory management has improved. |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [4968x2] | the decompress function has a memory limit option. it's been discussed whether it should be removed or not, but such things will be necessary in an embedded environment. |
overall R3 uses less memory than R2 | |
Graham 11-Oct-2007 [4970] | do you know why? |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [4971] | More optimized datatypes, tighter code and GOBs. |
Graham 11-Oct-2007 [4972] | and if you're running a non-gui app .. any difference? |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [4973] | I just started an R3 console. Everytime R3 starts, it displays a splashscreen with rich text, a picture and two buttons in it. When I close it, stats returns 1276368 bytes. |
Graham 11-Oct-2007 [4974x2] | got a screenshot ? |
of the rich text? | |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [4976x2] | contains secret info, can't show it. :-) |
I think there is a blurred one somewhere... | |
Graham 11-Oct-2007 [4978x2] | geez ... |
secrets ... | |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [4980x3] | http://www.rebol.cz/~cyphre/stuff/r3-alpha-splash.jpg<-- it's pretty old. the new one contains clickable links. |
doing something in R2 would probably require 5-6 MB memory. | |
something like that | |
Graham 11-Oct-2007 [4983] | where's the rich text? |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [4984] | you're looking at it :-) |
Graham 11-Oct-2007 [4985] | Ok, not video styles anymore? |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [4986x2] | sorry, I'm in fact wrong. it is in fact different lines. but it would be possible to do in rich text. |
I should do some rich text tests and show you that. | |
Graham 11-Oct-2007 [4988] | rich text in an area gadget |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [4989] | not supported yet. will come. |
Graham 11-Oct-2007 [4990] | I wonder how the different styles will be implemented .. perhaps as they do in web browsers? |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [4991] | probably something like that |
PeterWood 11-Oct-2007 [4992] | I hope you are just trying to keep a secret from us all Henrik because it would be worrying to think such design decisions haven't been made yet. |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [4993] | which ones? :-) |
PeterWood 11-Oct-2007 [4994] | How sttyles will be implemented. |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [4995] | do you think that it will be impossible to make such a design decision? |
Graham 11-Oct-2007 [4996x2] | I was meaning how to enter the different styles inside a text box .. would it need a menu bar to pick the different styles |
drop downs for emoticons etc | |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [4998x2] | it probably would. there would be great value in a single text editor style with toolbar and things. |
view [rich-text-editor] looks nice :-) I think we should do that. | |
Graham 11-Oct-2007 [5000] | of course it would be nice to be able to cut and paste some rich text html and have it come out the same in a rich text box |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [5001] | yes, that would be nice. |
Graham 11-Oct-2007 [5002] | I'm surprised how often this actually works with web apps |
DaveC 11-Oct-2007 [5003] | Pekr Hi. To answer your question, I was thinking about the WxWidget/Gtk/Tk toolkits. They have a basic HTML control. Given the web-rich nature of Rebol, this would be a great feature. Not Python per se, but the wrappers around those toolkits. |
Graham 11-Oct-2007 [5004x2] | I wonder if anything is going to be done to support the windows tablet os |
with inking support | |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [5006] | I don't think RT will do that on their own. That would be a third party project. |
Graham 11-Oct-2007 [5007] | as long as there hooks to make this possible |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [5008] | I think that as long as a driver can be written for a device, R3 can support it. |
Graham 11-Oct-2007 [5009x3] | and simple things like right click on a text box brings up copy/paste support |
being different has its drawbacks when writing application software | |
when you don't support standard system widget functionality | |
DaveC 11-Oct-2007 [5012] | Henrik: Is your VID-LIST going to be built into VID3? |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [5013x3] | when the menu style has been implemented, then it will be possible to use popup menus. |
daveC, no, it's too complex and not very well written, but Gabriele and I will take the features one by one and reimplement the most important ones. LIST-VIEW takes up almost as much source code as the entire of VID3. | |
LIST-VIEW doesn't follow the 80% rule. | |
DaveC 11-Oct-2007 [5016] | Ok. nice to know that it's going to be there in short form. |
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