World: r3wp

but gob is not an object :-) Well, but I get your point. IMO Carl 
let us talk for a few moments and then we will realise that we stick 
to gob :-)

;-)

besides.. ive already started coding some stuff using make gob! :P

how can you, if you don't have R3 yet? :-)

VAIS - view atomic image structure

facs .. face c structures

face image c-structures  - fics

aww ..give up

im in the process of converting existing code based on the R3 presentation 
of Carl :)

just waiting on the richtext info really..

flounder?

yup

:)

altho i do have another inhouse editor ive made with agg/draw

i like GOB as well, I don't know what's the problem

ah.. now I see what does it mean in english:-) but I still like it

petr: gobs have nothing to do with classes.

names: remember it has to be very good for Carl to pick it up :-) 
that's why i said don't keep your hopes too high.

Gabriele - I know ... it is just that you referenced fonts. So gobs 
can share them.

weren't goblins some kind of small weird creatures? Or were it gremlins? 
:-)

i think goblins are bigger than gremlins... but it may depend on 
the author of the fantasy story ;)

both. Gremlins are the cuter ones (if defined by movies).

About gob, i imagine one speaks with customers about the gui and 
uses gob all the time. Sounds not that nice..

goblins are still much smaller than humans in most cases.

volker, isn't the name gremlin applied after the transformation, 
in the movie? so they are ugly too :)

and evil of course.

gremlins were funny, no evil :-) Gismo was the teddy bear :-)

Hmm, you may be right. But its still a cuter ugliness^^

i think the people in the movie would not agree with "funny", but 
maybe i don't remember the movie very well. it's been a long time 
;)

People who dont agree with "funny" are often funny to others^^

Volker... if you are talking, you can say "graphic object" instead 
of the shortcut GOB

Hmpf. Even when one is used to it? I think that happens just so.

But Carl knows English too, no? :-) I wonder if it did not sound 
bad to him too?

Or just call it a GRO (GRaphic Object ..... or Graphic REBOL Object)

Maybe the name fits. Working at that low level with c all the time^^

Why three letters? How about gdl, pronounced Gödel^^

glay - graphics layer

GRO is not bad as well

well, and many of GRO is Gros? Our former prime minister :-))

Sounds good. and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groo_the_Wanderercoud 
count as an insider, its graphics related too :D

(hope its fits, found that site a moment ago^^)

Alpha release to selected developers is close, isn't it? Now who's 
part of that lucky group? :-)

I tracked down the probable cause of the massive memory-eating behaviour 
of Christian's menu-system-demo.r

The problem depends on the user's file-system. In my case, I have 
many many files under my rebol/view directory.

The demo makes a huge nested menu by recursing every file, so that:
>> length? mold dir-data
== 717187

When I work around this problem the menu-system looks really nice 
!

(I have yet to examine the code, though)

I don't like gob; gfx and vis seem like better choices to me. Carl's 
limitation of three letters starting with a G limits us a bit. Under 
that rule, I would probably choose gfx.

So far proposed words:

(gob! face! gfx! cell! atom! layer! vis! sprite! bob! blit! )

the only which really applies is gob! or vis!  others are all pretty 
much non-related.

people you forgot the most obvious and pretty!

gel!

graphic element.


but I don't see the point of the heated debate over the name gob. 
 gob is chunk, a morcel of something.  in this case its pretty precise. 
 its a part of the gui, not the whole gui... and in another sentence 
its also meaningfull... when you say gobs of text, it means a lot 
of text... so in reality we WILL need gobs of gob to make up one 
gui.

(sorry I forgot gfx which is also related (and my favorite appart 
from gel! or gob!))

grob?

gels are used in lighting in front of spots to color the lighting... 
btw.

Gel relates to one of the first famous demos :)