World: r3wp

If you are on Windows, it is too bad if you are not using Windows 
Explorer. Explorer extensions are the most useful thing on Windows.

i'm not i'm using viva firefox ... explorer 8 is a shit ....

Windows Explorer, not Internet Explorer. It's the file manager.

And the UI, and the Start Menu, and...

same the file manager  embeded is boring ... i prefere using freecommander

and the included Zip is slow  so i prefere using 7-ZIP

Oh well, you are missing out on the best tools for Windows. Including 
7-Zip, which is easier to use from Explorer than its own UI.

not at all i'm getting all the regular extensions in free commander 
without the blue screens of death

and free commander evolve faster than once in ten years like the 
windows explorer

Sorry, what is that? I haven't seen one of those in years. Must be 
a driver thing - apps don't cause blue screens, not even Explorer.

actually for example on windows 7 some HD video flash players are 
making  the explorer aero stack to hang and crash  so the desktop 
crash and i just have to reboot to use the computer again

and some time i havec blue screens of death when the "preview" hability 
of windows explorer file manager activates on some media files ...

Oh that must be the driver thing. Video drivers are notoriously problematic. 
And we're off topic here  - we were talking about 64bit builds, optimization 
of R3 and such. At some point you must have gotten the impression 
that 32bit builds wouldn't be available - what made you think that?

yeah brand new hardware on brand you OS  = bugs ...

Right, and what does this have to do with R3?

that's the contrary at some points i got the impression 64  bits 
builds wouldn't been available on windows 7 64bits

and more specificly the drivers  which is more painfull

buuuuuuuuuuuuuuut  as my hardware is 64 bits able if i see in the 
years to comme more and more software released in  64 bit version 
then i will take  my vise platinium and by the 64 version of windos 
7 or 8 or 9 ...

they are existing 1 OS every 2  years ... windows 7 is the fix for 
Vista and i'm impatient to see the fix for windows 7 :P

No, what we said was that 64bit builds aren't currently available 
*at all*, but would eventually be available on all platforms that 
support them. And that even the 32bit builds use 64bit math. And 
that (IMO) the 32bit builds *should* be optimized for netbooks.

great ... i mean why not rebol 3 in 64 bits of course this means 
for carl handling 2 lines of product

2? Have you seen the platform support of R2? And the host code will 
be open source. There will likely be *many* R3 builds :)

There are around 150 R2 products, AFAIK.

I want to see builds of R3 for every application plugin model on 
every platform, but that might be just me :)

http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=42915

i like this ... the processor is 64 bits but the memory  adressing 
is only  36 bits in fact only the data part is 64 bits .... so you 
jump fro 4Go of ram to 16 Go which is cool already

150 R2  products that's too much ....

Why? That's for specific platforms and purposes and they are automatically 
built using Carl's secret build monster system. :-)

yeah and in the end you got things not working from OS to another 
while they are supposed to be working the same way

And as long as R3 scripts work the same (which we have been more 
careful of) then it won't be a problem.

I don't think the build system is responsible for that. That comes 
down to the implementations done for the individual systems.

And this is why all of the platform wrapper code will be open source.

heanrik ofcourse the building system is just the concequence not 
the reason. Spread yourself toomuch only tends to make you the worst 
everywhere

It's the bare minimum necessary to compete with other cross-platform 
development tools. This is why platform support will be open source. 
R3 is a community project - R2 was a commercial product. You can't 
really compare the two.

i have one problem for example  actually i made an irc bot to  ask 
and difuse the song name on the public channel when asked by users. 
When my bot match the command then it  opens a web connection read 
the radio welcome webpage and retrieve from it the song and artist 
information then it build a nice reply and reply

lately the radio's website have changed the why this inforation is 
updated and provided.

in result the new system is slow and messy some time the current 
song on air is not documented ... thru the radio's website

so as the shoutcast server provide that information my  thoughs are 
can we with rebol 2  retrieve from a shoutcast server the appropriate 
information  and how to do that using rebol?

ok never mind i found  a way  to do it   i will  copy and adapt the 
way php does it .... (shoutcast_class.php)

apparently the shoutcast datapart works like a regular webserver

fanally not so easy i don't  know why but with rebol i get no reply 
from the shoutcast server

http://ifb.impek.com:8000/  if i put that in my webbrowser i have 
the  full information

if someone can tell me what to do to get the reply that would be 
nice

It's working fine with my cookies-daemon

without it I get some continuous stream

I think it's because of User-agent in the request

yeah the continous stream is the MP3 streaming part :P

shoutcast server goal are to broacast through internet MP3
(used for web radio and web TV ...)

it's always good to use>> trace/net on

cookie demon ?

oldes i used it but i wasn't able to understand the result