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Pekr 28-Sep-2009 [18306] | ah, yes, task! using threads one? |
BrianH 28-Sep-2009 [18307] | So: task! is a thread, undefined sharing model, undefined intertask comm model. That's what we have so far. |
Pekr 28-Sep-2009 [18308] | http://ulf.wiger.net/weblog/2008/02/06/what-is-erlang-style-concurrency/ |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18309] | Correct: the model is: threaded CPU, shared memory, shared symbol space, shared system function space, separate evaluation stacks, separate user contexts. |
BrianH 28-Sep-2009 [18310] | Synchronization? |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18311x4] | Intertask comm is via Ports. |
Sync is via ports. | |
BTW, "ports" does not need to mean "sockets" | |
The host level can provide a more direct mechanism for inter-task sync and comm. | |
BrianH 28-Sep-2009 [18315] | Locking? With shared memory, mods could trounce each other. |
Steeve 28-Sep-2009 [18316] | Carl, about parse, is that a pain (in the ass) to have access (read-only) to the rule stack while parsing ? |
BrianH 28-Sep-2009 [18317] | Wow, sounds interesting. Why would you need that? |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18318] | I'm not a fan of locking, but sometimes it's necessary. Otherwise, mods can be "cloned" for multi-task uniqueness. |
Steeve 28-Sep-2009 [18319x2] | to know, if we can break the parsing in any place, and continue it later |
to have async parsing possible | |
BrianH 28-Sep-2009 [18321] | Copy-on-write? |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18322] | So, you want "parse continuations". |
Steeve 28-Sep-2009 [18323] | sort of... ::-) |
Pekr 28-Sep-2009 [18324] | streamed parsing? :-) |
BrianH 28-Sep-2009 [18325] | Incremental parsing. |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18326] | Yes, I understand. That would need to be 3.1. We do not want to delay 3.0. |
Steeve 28-Sep-2009 [18327] | sort of... :-) |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18328] | Anyway... Pekr.... I want to note one final thing. |
Pekr 28-Sep-2009 [18329] | listening :-) |
BrianH 28-Sep-2009 [18330] | I figured out how to do PARSE on seekable ports, so that might handle a lot of the problems. |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18331x2] | We need a way to make the "todo list" accessible and we need users to help us maintain it. |
An example is this... | |
Henrik 28-Sep-2009 [18333] | Carl, you mentioned a while ago that you urged us to work on the docs. Does this mean we can fill out the function reference with examples without them being overwritten? |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18334] | Maxim needs some changes for extensions... and has posted them somewhere, but I'm not sure where. |
Pekr 28-Sep-2009 [18335] | Chat ... it was about callbacks IIRC and some ideas ... |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18336] | Henrik, yes... please! Every edit is saved. |
BrianH 28-Sep-2009 [18337] | In R3 chat, plls a referenced web address. |
Pekr 28-Sep-2009 [18338] | #5045 in Chat ... |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18339x3] | But, we can also add locking to the docs... if we want. |
Pekr, for some things, I need more of a todo list rather than message thread. | |
I think it is ok to post it in CureCode, since that's easy to track. | |
BrianH 28-Sep-2009 [18342] | Speaking of which, add finishing the PROTECT changes to the list. All details in CureCode. |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18343] | Even if I've said, "don't post it there"... I now say, better there than nowhere. |
Pekr 28-Sep-2009 [18344] | so why just not to chat upon some areas and fill in already good project-plan? |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18345x2] | Pekr, yes good. |
So, when and where? | |
Pekr 28-Sep-2009 [18347x2] | Carl - R3 Chat is not nowhere, no? It was created to be a developer's tool too. But - we can make projects-plan.html a wiki page, so we can edit it and fill it with detail? |
http://www.rebol.com/r3/project-plans.html | |
BrianH 28-Sep-2009 [18349] | Using the docs wiki, not DocBase. |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18350] | (I am quite sure that BrianH has some kind of microwave beam and reads my thoughts.) |
Pekr 28-Sep-2009 [18351] | :-) |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18352] | Pekr: what do you mean "R3 Chat is not nowhere, no?" |
BrianH 28-Sep-2009 [18353] | I'm running you in simulation :) |
Pekr 28-Sep-2009 [18354] | BrianH: now what is some secret RT's plan? Come on - you can read Carl's mind, no? :-) |
Carl 28-Sep-2009 [18355] | Lol. :) |
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