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BrianH 15-Sep-2009 [17600] | Heard a great line, don't remember from where: "Java has as much to do with JavaScript as Ham has to do with Hamster" |
Henrik 15-Sep-2009 [17601] | :-) |
BrianH 15-Sep-2009 [17602] | (paraphrased) |
Maxim 15-Sep-2009 [17603] | :-D |
Geomol 15-Sep-2009 [17604x3] | It's kinda strange, they got along with calling it JavaScript. I would think, Sun would be able to stop it somehow. |
Should we try make DirectXScript? ;-) | |
Of course it should have nothing to do with DirectX, but be the link between iPhone apps and Amiga ... or something. | |
Maxim 15-Sep-2009 [17607] | call it DirectScript :-) |
BrianH 15-Sep-2009 [17608] | Can ActiveScripting languages call DirectX? I would think so... |
Maxim 15-Sep-2009 [17609] | sanskript in relation to zen ? :-) |
Geomol 15-Sep-2009 [17610x2] | :-) |
Dharma | |
amacleod 15-Sep-2009 [17612] | Call it R as in R3...we'll always know what it means.... It worked for C and there was also an E script language on the Amiga |
Maxim 15-Sep-2009 [17613] | it already exists... its a statistical language |
Henrik 15-Sep-2009 [17614] | ARR, then. Pirate language. |
Maxim 15-Sep-2009 [17615] | hahaha that would really sit in well with MIS... hahaha "looks guys... we've got a process called pirate.exe"... think its a hacker? response... No ... he'd be too stupid to use a name like that! ;-) |
Sunanda 15-Sep-2009 [17616] | Then name it after a real (and/or legendary) pirate.....drumroll.....Alvilda http://towim.denmasters.com/rp/alvilda/pirate.htm (Contorted acronym available later) |
Pekr 15-Sep-2009 [17617] | Maxim - where do you come up with such info that Carl is open to renaming REBOL? I can't see anything like that floating around ... the REBOL rename is total nonsense and anyone claiming otherwise should take some marketing pills ... |
Maxim 15-Sep-2009 [17618x2] | REBOL-SIG altme group... mid-august |
doh... I meant REBOL-SIG Qtask project | |
Pekr 15-Sep-2009 [17620x3] | REBOL being written in capital is another nonsense spread by many ... |
If it is true, I might be out from this community. This is really totally non-professional aproach. REBOL's problems lay completly elsewhere, not in the name itself. If Carl can't see it, noone can help the situation ... | |
Why do we come up with new names? Just search the blogs. Search R3-alpha altme group. Carl always teases community with similar topic, then I put some effort into collecting all possible names, post it several time to him ... just to see NO SIGLE response or decision ... this is really tiresome ... | |
Maxim 15-Sep-2009 [17623] | not saying its a priority Pekr. REBOL's name is something that has plagued it since its inception. It doesn't look cool, many don't even know how to pronounce it, and to top it off, the capital letters is total non-sense I agree too. |
BrianH 15-Sep-2009 [17624] | Carl is aware of the other problems, but that doesn't mean we should ignore the marketing situation. Still, I like the name REBOL. |
Maxim 15-Sep-2009 [17625] | Its Carl which is adamant about it being spelled in uppercase. |
Pekr 15-Sep-2009 [17626x2] | No, it was always RT's marketing mistakes, which plagues it from the very beginning. The world was open and tried to look at what is REBOL about back then ... |
If you want to know what happens after the reaname, just ask me - completly nothing ... | |
Maxim 15-Sep-2009 [17628] | I would love we write is without caps. its much less aggressive... maybe a big part of the tiresome nature of the name and even its association to COBOL and others is just because of that. |
BrianH 15-Sep-2009 [17629] | Rebol then? I tend to use R2 and R3 in conversation with people who know we are talking about Rebol... |
Pekr 15-Sep-2009 [17630x2] | CIO which can't read REBOL instead of COBOL is not CIO, but an idiot :-) Young ppl, potentially new users, even hardly know, what the COBOL is ... |
Of course the name might matter, but I would like us to not think it will cure our marketing problems? | |
Henrik 15-Sep-2009 [17632] | I consider it to be a weakness of decisive capability, if your product changes name, because you've found something better. What does that not tell you about the language, if you change the name? |
Maxim 15-Sep-2009 [17633] | no one said it will *fix* marketing. Its just something that feels like a splinter once you start using it. |
Pekr 15-Sep-2009 [17634] | I can only say - give us R3 beta release, full featured, give us Host source released after 4 years of promisses. Gives us new website, give us GUI, give us web-browser plugin, give us Docs, give us seminars, consultancy, PR activity. And then maybe think of the rename scheme ... |
Maxim 15-Sep-2009 [17635x2] | Rebol is already MUCH better.... look how the connotation to COBOL disapears instantly! |
probably the most appropriate name would be "bind" but then Carl becomes Sauron ;-) | |
Pekr 15-Sep-2009 [17637] | I think I will not take part in this discussion this time. There was already something like 80 posts to naming VID/View or REBOL in the past, with no particular result. Unless someone shows me that we know what the strategic plan is, I regard it being a pointless discussion ... |
Maxim 15-Sep-2009 [17638] | you take it too seriously... ;-) and AFAICT dropping all caps seems to be the common ground that always wins... empirically that's probably the solution. |
Geomol 15-Sep-2009 [17639] | rEBOL |
Pekr 15-Sep-2009 [17640x4] | http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/r3blog.r?view=0148#comments |
If you want something new, try to not think REBOL related at all ... | |
I think that VIVID or inVision make for some nicer names. The trouble, with all possible names, is particular domains being taken already. You can't be easily innovative domain-name wise nowadays. We tried some constructed names, e.g. FireSide for browser-plugin (Fire - as in firefox, firebird, Side - coming from side), but even some such combinations are taken ... | |
... hence I would stay with REBOL/Rebol - it is imo a good name ... | |
Oldes 15-Sep-2009 [17644] | me too |
WuJian 16-Sep-2009 [17645] | me three. :) I like this name. |
Pekr 16-Sep-2009 [17646] | Slow R3 developer's time explained on Twitter - "Grapes harvested, winemaking begins again. Cabernet and Merlot fermentation started. It marks the years... and stores them in the bottle." .... hopefully Carl bring few bottles to DevCon :-) |
amacleod 16-Sep-2009 [17647] | Does that mean he is back behind the keyboard or not for a few more weeks???? |
Pekr 16-Sep-2009 [17648] | dunno ... Carl is less active for more than 2 weeks. Maybe even more - Axing alias was typical trick of Carl, to post some less important blog and keep us busy :-) |
amacleod 16-Sep-2009 [17649] | That dirty bastard...why do we keep him around at all? |
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