World: r3wp

can it be a long name?
  pick-before series 27
is what it does.

could we define hair as being before head   ?  ;-)

I would use z-pick/z-poke rather than pickz/pokez. It mentally expands 
to zero-pick rather than pick-zero, and reads as zee-pick rather 
than picks.

or rather pigs

pick0 poke0 ?

pre-pick pre-poke

I like z-pick and z-poke

but I'm fine with pickz and pokez as well - no problem to me

cpick and cpoke ?   (Inspired by C++'s  cin and cout)

sounds interesting

pixies & pokesy

Still suffering from fever Tom? ;-)

unfortunatly

otherwise I would be too busy to play here

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Any progress in REBOL 3.0? Any scoop to share with us? Anyone?

jerry, Carl just wrote something interesting on the blog :-)

interesting :-) If they started to work on View kernel part, does 
it mean Core alpha is ready in some concrete form? (because View 
surely will use low level advantage of newly introduced inheritance 
(class system) ...

We will have to be more careful of what we write on the rebolweek 
blog !

Henrik, Thanks. That article certainly set my mind at ease.

graham, I suggest you start writing more about "Oh, rebol3 development 
seems to have stopped." Maybe that will set off more rebol3 articles. 
:-)

:-))

hehe... well in the last  blog, carl says he is  actually working 
on the face side of things  :-)

it wasn't me .. it was Volker!

one other month since last R3 blog update. Any news here?

I would like to know more about these optimized graphics objects 
or whatthey'recalled.

interesting part is, that imo if Carl and Cyphre work on new View, 
then hopefully Core R3 is ready to some extent?

otherwise I would not understand it. Because I would prefer Core 
alpha release, allow ppl to study new plug-in architecture, trying 
to wrap few libraries etc.

but who knows - Carl promissed to post "bigger picture" diagram of 
R3, but maybe he forgot ....

I wonder, if tasking model, timers, event system, are already decided 
...

Uhm, as I posted in Linux group, many systems are targetting its 
future towards vectore usage. Co-author of KDE 4 blogged about how 
fast Qt 4 based vector pipeline is, and it seems other engines can't 
stand the competition. Of course he generated some noise, as Cairo 
fanboys did not like it :-) http://zrusin.blogspot.com/So I looked 
at http://www.antigrain.com, to see what is new with AGG. It seems 
to me, that it is not good for RT - they are changing licence for 
any new version to GPL

Also if I understand correctly, Maxim has now full time job, non 
AGG related. I wonder what the future of AGG is for us, and if we 
should not look into something else ....

petr, Carl did not forget. :)

Core is not ready, but this doesn't mean we can't start on View.

Pekr: The 'old' licence for AGG 2.3 and 2.4 remains. GPL is for 2.5 
which is at the moment at the same leve as 2.4(regarding functionality). 
So far noone from the AGG comunity(or at least at the ML) don't know 
why Maxim decided to change the licence.(everyone is waiting for 
his reply)

Maxim also wrote "Current AGG users who are willing to continue using 
AGG under the old terms and conditions are encouraged to contact 
me and I will consider their requests." so nothing is lost if we 
would like to use 2.5.

Anyway, even the AGG2.3 framework is very stable and have 99% of 
the features same like 2.4 and up. The whole code quality is very 
good so it is possible to enhance it...so this shouldn't be a big 
problem for Rebol.

Another thing is that in the 'worst case' current AGG users/developers 
who don't want or cannot use the GPL version are planning to continue 
with improving the 2.4 codebase separately.

cyphre, very simple question: does it support smooth downscaling 
of bitmaps? Is is something that can be turned on?

Sure, ieven AGG2.3 (which Rebol is using) supports high quality downscaling 
of images(among other types of image filters). As I know lot of Rebolers 
would like to generate quality thumbnails ;) I'll try to talk with 
Carl about including this in future versions of Rebol.

That would shave off a lot of development time for an app, I'm developing. 
Just this one feature. Thanks.

I'd just like to be able to select transform filters on the fly.

Gabriele - so if Carl did not forget, then the whole picture of architecture 
is not clear yet, or is it? :-)

Pekr: AFAIK Carl is also working on some diagrams so you will see 
the design soon.

ok, good to know, thanks. I think that many ppl here are waiting 
for R3 already. I believe some would prefer incomplete alpha (complete 
to some degree), to already start testing for bugs, testing interfaces, 
ports, etc.

Maxim: yes, this is already in current DRAW but only two filters 
are supported. (NN and bilinear)

pekr: I'm sure Carl release the testing version ASAP (ie. when he 
decide it make sense to test it externally)

your answer implies it is under testing "internally", right? :-)

I'm always wondering why people depend on the next release to start 
their app... take what you have and do it. There is always a way. 
It's like with a team. You got the people you have and good management 
is, to get to the goal with your team you have. Winning with a dreamteam 
is no art.

Robert, I don't any of us is waiting on R3... we are just waiting 
on it, to test it, as Pekr says.   There are things we cannot fix 
for RT, like view performance, draw crashes, etc.

I'm always wondering why people depend on the next release to start 
their app... take what you have and do it.
 <--- Precisely!

Some planned things have to wait for features to be implemented. 
But there is so much other stuff that can be done while waiting there 
is no reason to be idle.

I mentioned "waiting" in another sense though - it was wrong word 
choosed on my side probably, I just meant "awaiting", not "waiting 
for", sorry. And my argument was, that in MY opinion, devs would 
welcome more often, incomplete early alpha releases, than inhouse 
only testing of R3, late release. I very much liked days of Rebcode 
development - I found it very vital cooperation, and it clearly showed, 
that some community folks had very good influence on RebCode architecture 
itself ...