World: r3wp
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Henrik 15-Feb-2009 [11614] | The iPod Touch has sold well this Christmas. It's almost hardware equivalent to the iPhone, so the marketshare would cover that device as well. |
Graham 15-Feb-2009 [11615] | Heh ... stimulate the economy though :) |
BrianH 15-Feb-2009 [11616] | This is a little off-topic for the group though :( |
Graham 15-Feb-2009 [11617x2] | iPod Touch has internet connectivity? |
oh yeah .. can it run R3 ? :) | |
BrianH 15-Feb-2009 [11619x4] | Yes, wifi |
No, license restrictions. | |
Apple won't let any interpreters on the iPhone/Touch except the JS interpreter in Safari, no other exceptions. | |
That's why the only alternative development platform fot the iPhone is based on Mono: ahead-of-time compilation with static linking. | |
Graham 15-Feb-2009 [11623] | Oh well, a R3 interpreter written in JS seems necessary then. |
BrianH 15-Feb-2009 [11624] | On my todo list. |
Pekr 15-Feb-2009 [11625] | R3 interpreter written in JS? :-) How fast it can be? Besides that - don't we have better job to do than to obey stupid Apple's licensing policy? Why not to use devices like HTC Touch Pro for e.g. then? |
Graham 15-Feb-2009 [11626x2] | Pekr, Brian has a very very long todo list :) |
IOT, he'll never get to it. | |
Reichart 15-Feb-2009 [11628x2] | We offer a cool HTML only interface, this ensures we work woth almost everything (we call this Amish Quilt) We plan to offer a step up which offers "some" JS" Then there is Quilt (JS + HTML only). Several people are not playing with iPhone only client applications that will interface to Qtask. |
www.iqtask.com | |
Pekr 15-Feb-2009 [11630] | Graham - the thing is, that when I proposed REBOL being ported to JAVA VM, to get to platforms where REBOL presence is lacking, the idea was dismissed and native port of REBOL proposed for target HW. Now just because of some licensing description we are about to port REBOL to even slower VM? Screw Apple then. In few months I buy HTC Touch Pro or Touch Diamond, Windows Mobile based phone. Then there is going to be Android phones (first on market is already here), Palm Treo, Linux based (Open Moko) - so, there are some choices out there ... |
Graham 15-Feb-2009 [11631] | Java VM sounds good |
Pekr 15-Feb-2009 [11632] | Is there JAVA on iPhone? That could be an interim solution then ... |
Graham 15-Feb-2009 [11633] | It can be done ... |
Pekr 15-Feb-2009 [11634x2] | But - the best aproach (because I don't believe someone will port REBOL neither to JS nor JAVA), is to imo do dual interface. One in VID, other one for web. We will see, how it could be automated. |
E.g. JAVA GWT does that - you can have JAVA native GUI, as well as very good browser based one - http://www.gwt-ext.com/demo/ | |
Graham 15-Feb-2009 [11636] | Looks pretty good |
PeterWood 15-Feb-2009 [11637] | Pekr: Delphi (and Lazarus) most definititely separate the description of the GUI and the code. They are described in different, though simiiar langauges and saved in separate files; .dfm for the GUI description, .dpr (or .pas) for the code. |
BrianH 15-Feb-2009 [11638x5] | No Java on iPhone - same license restriction. Mono's there though, and (in theory) you could use IKVM.NET to put Java on that. |
I expect that my work on some of my todo list will take the form of helping others do it - it's more of a to-get-done list :) | |
I don't think the DLR can run statically compiled, so that route's out. | |
Also (in theory) you could use GCJ or Excellcior to compile for the iPhone, but not their interpreters. No dynamic code allowed. | |
However, I was not precise enough about my todo list. No REBOL interpreters are on it - I want a REBOL-to-JS compiler. | |
Henrik 16-Feb-2009 [11643] | Who wrote the JS REBOL interpreter I tried a year ago? Gabriele? |
BrianH 16-Feb-2009 [11644] | I think so. |
Kaj 16-Feb-2009 [11645] | Yep |
Mchean 17-Feb-2009 [11646] | I have a question about the Gui_Basics example in the R3 docs. The ex. under Adding styles won't work for me. title "Opinion Survey" comes back with title having no value - this after load-gui |
Claude 18-Feb-2009 [11647x4] | hello, |
i try to load rebDB-203 in R3 ................. but R3 return a error when a try to do a "db-create my-table [id date name]" with >> db-create "my-table" [id date nom] ** Script error: db-create does not allow string! for its 'table argument ** Note: use WHY? for more about this error | |
This is just to ask if someone has already try to bring tools like reddb on R3 | |
rebdb !!! | |
PeterWood 18-Feb-2009 [11651] | You got further than I when I triead: >> do %/Users/peter/Code/Library/Rebol/RebDB-203/db.r ** Syntax error: Invalid "string" -- {"Ashley G. TrŸter"} ** Where: to unless load case applier do ** Near: (line 3) Owner: "Ashley G. TrŸter" |
Claude 18-Feb-2009 [11652] | i copy the script and remove the header |
PeterWood 18-Feb-2009 [11653] | I don't think anybody has looked at converting tools to R3 yet as it is still too early for them. |
Claude 18-Feb-2009 [11654x2] | i do after if a load %my-copy-db.r |
the function db-create is ok then !-) ............but need much more to be good for us | |
Henrik 18-Feb-2009 [11656] | In general you would be very lucky if a fairly large R2 product works directly under R3. |
Claude 18-Feb-2009 [11657x4] | i thing it is important for every body who use rebdb !!!! |
or perhaps R3 guru would give us a better way to do this ;-) | |
is the same for rebgui............il would like to see a R3 | |
a R3 demo that do all rebgui do | |
PeterWood 18-Feb-2009 [11661x2] | The table name you supply to db-create should be a word! not a string! >> ? db-create USAGE: DB-CREATE 'table columns DESCRIPTION: Creates a table. DB-CREATE is a function value . ARGUMENTS: table (word!) columns -- Column names (block!) |
But when you correct that you get a real R3 compatability error: >> db-create my-table [id date norm] ** Script error: write does not allow string! for its value argument ** Where: db-create ** Near: db-create my-table [id date norm] | |
Henrik 18-Feb-2009 [11663] | R3 will not be very compatible with R2. You will almost always need some kind of porting process, so this is up to the authors of rebdb and rebgui, if they want to do that. |
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