World: r3wp
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Henrik 15-Feb-2009 [11498] | that could easily be part of a style |
BrianH 15-Feb-2009 [11499] | Ah, but those colors have meaning within your apps. Change the attribute for that meaning, then let the style pick the color. |
Henrik 15-Feb-2009 [11500] | you could describe in your layout code that it's a SAVE-BUTTON style and nothing else. then in your style code, you add logic to change the color depending on the state of your user's need to save content. |
Reichart 15-Feb-2009 [11501x2] | Graham, sort of like in browsers where links you have been to are a diff colour? What about colour blind people? |
Might be interesting to build a little check box into buttons you have already pressed and completed (or something). | |
Graham 15-Feb-2009 [11503x2] | color blind males ... red/green ... life is tough for them |
will we get sued for not providing addtional cues for color blind disabled individuals?? | |
Reichart 15-Feb-2009 [11505] | I designed an interface like this for tasks. Who What When Where would go dark once you did something on each tab (these were tab names). |
Henrik 15-Feb-2009 [11506] | view [ panel [ ...config-options... ] close-button save-button ] It could look like that in the layout. No need to worry about the logic. It already works in the style you wrote. |
Reichart 15-Feb-2009 [11507x2] | People liked it, and I plan to bring it back. We got rid of it for another reason, but I did like it. |
I think if it is medical interfaces you might. | |
Graham 15-Feb-2009 [11509] | the alternative is to hide the save-button until you need it. |
Reichart 15-Feb-2009 [11510x2] | When I worked on airplane interfaces we did everything in BLACK and WHITE. |
Or GHOST it. | |
Graham 15-Feb-2009 [11512] | can't ghost in R2 |
Henrik 15-Feb-2009 [11513] | we will get sued, because people will be distracted by our pretty UI and spill hot coffee in their laps. |
Reichart 15-Feb-2009 [11514x2] | In theory you can force people to walk a path, in the case of the task example I just gave, we can't do that, since you can click on anything. |
But you can fake it. | |
Graham 15-Feb-2009 [11516] | well, if you're a Mcdonald user .. put a disclaimer in it! |
Reichart 15-Feb-2009 [11517] | Make a button a shade of the BG colour, and do nothing. |
Graham 15-Feb-2009 [11518] | I also relabel buttons too on the lfy so that users can switch to using F keys instead of the mouse |
Reichart 15-Feb-2009 [11519x2] | I'm very carefull of colour blind issues, have been on all my interfaces...simple trick in the old days was to view it on a B&W TV or device. Now I have to take screen shots from time to time nad review with no saturation. |
RED (which is bring to people ) is simply dark gray to others. | |
Graham 15-Feb-2009 [11521] | Ideally we should have icons as well on buttons |
Reichart 15-Feb-2009 [11522x3] | That was my point of the "check mark" a little icon. Check out FamFamFam.com |
These are free icons. | |
Very nicely done. | |
Graham 15-Feb-2009 [11525] | using F keys helps ease the keyboard mouse transitioning thing |
Reichart 15-Feb-2009 [11526x4] | yes. |
I actually liked when Windows had "_" under the hot alt key. | |
Although what I would like is a key or button you press that "reveals" things about the UI. | |
Also, a way to view all buttons, and assign keys. This should be system wide. | |
Graham 15-Feb-2009 [11530] | Do the styled buttons have keyboard access to them like ^O, ^S etc? |
Reichart 15-Feb-2009 [11531] | I lost the meaning of your question... |
Graham 15-Feb-2009 [11532x2] | button "Quit" #"^Q" in vid |
are there default assignments in the styled buttons? | |
Henrik 15-Feb-2009 [11534x2] | Reichart, I will look into the checkmark button style. |
Graham, yes. | |
Reichart 15-Feb-2009 [11536] | I think yes. |
Graham 15-Feb-2009 [11537x2] | And I guess you change them for whatever language you use ... |
Anyway I hope R3G has robust keyboard handling .. for speed a mouse driven gui sucks | |
Henrik 15-Feb-2009 [11539] | I hope so too, but we haven't gotten to that part yet. |
Graham 15-Feb-2009 [11540] | alert "New Acronym in use" |
Reichart 15-Feb-2009 [11541] | shortcuts, and language need to be unified and solved... |
Graham 15-Feb-2009 [11542x3] | Javascript does a pretty decent job of creating GUIs ... I don't think one should be criticized for looking there for inspiration |
regardless of its age. | |
The JS GUI is pretty much the de-facto standard GUI | |
BrianH 15-Feb-2009 [11545] | Yes, reserve your criticism for attempts to replicate its flaws. |
Graham 15-Feb-2009 [11546x2] | I like the easy way you can easily chain callbacks |
to give smooth GUI changes | |
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