World: r3wp
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Henrik 3-Feb-2009 [10393] | I'm adding a ticket, just to be sure. |
Graham 3-Feb-2009 [10394] | So, we need a function that both checks that file exists, and it's a directory? |
Henrik 3-Feb-2009 [10395] | so... there should not be a need to port the R2 one, just ask like this: all [ exists? file dir? file ] That shouldn't hurt the R2 version. |
Kaj 3-Feb-2009 [10396] | Even info?/type is incompatible. īdirectory for R2 and īdir for R3 |
Henrik 3-Feb-2009 [10397] | probably related to ports being different in R3. I'll make a ticket. |
Kaj 3-Feb-2009 [10398] | The exists? check is insufficient, because it will return true if a regular file exists but the value is written in dir form with a trailing / |
Henrik 3-Feb-2009 [10399x3] | exists? %/c/msdos.sys == true exists? %/c/msdos.sys/ == false |
or is it R2? checking... | |
ah, yes. there is an issue in R2. | |
Kaj 3-Feb-2009 [10402] | The issue is in R3 |
Henrik 3-Feb-2009 [10403] | The above code was pasted from R3. |
Kaj 3-Feb-2009 [10404x4] | exists? %dark |
== true | |
exists? %dark/ | |
== true | |
Henrik 3-Feb-2009 [10408] | does %dark exist? I don't get that result. |
Kaj 3-Feb-2009 [10409x2] | Itīs a regular file |
Are you on Windows? | |
Henrik 3-Feb-2009 [10411x2] | I've tried without a root dir now and I get the same result as I pasted above. |
yes, XP | |
Kaj 3-Feb-2009 [10413] | This is WINE |
Henrik 3-Feb-2009 [10414x2] | I could test in crossover if I had the diskspace... |
I will investigate whether we want WINE related bugs in Curecode. | |
Kaj 3-Feb-2009 [10416] | Thereīs no other way to run on Linux |
Graham 3-Feb-2009 [10417] | Wine is beta software still .... and AFAIK, the decimal bug is still present wrt R2. |
Henrik 3-Feb-2009 [10418] | True, but Wine is not a very stable platform. It might be a Wine problem. |
Graham 3-Feb-2009 [10419] | Though the Wine team has asked us to see if it is still present. |
Kaj 3-Feb-2009 [10420x3] | Wine is past 1.0 since a year or so |
But thatīs beside the point. The only offered way to run on non-Windows is on WINE | |
The root of all evil is pointing fingers at other IT suppliers | |
Graham 3-Feb-2009 [10423x2] | a little over dramatic ... |
especially when wine has been known to be buggy. | |
Henrik 3-Feb-2009 [10425] | Kaj, there have been Wine related bugs with early R3 alphas before, which were then fixed. It's prudent to be cautious. |
Kaj 3-Feb-2009 [10426] | You might as well not fix any bugs at all becuase Windows is not a very stable platform |
Henrik 3-Feb-2009 [10427] | Kaj, isn't the point of Wine to make it behave like Windows? |
Kaj 3-Feb-2009 [10428x2] | Note that Iīm not saying there should be no bugs; Iīm saying bugs should be fixed |
Isnīt the point of REBOL to be usable? | |
Henrik 3-Feb-2009 [10430] | yes, when the underlying platform is stable. otherwise you can't work with that platform. |
Graham 3-Feb-2009 [10431] | Ask Carl to produce a port to Wine ... |
Kaj 3-Feb-2009 [10432] | Look, Iīm not interested in a philosophical discussion. We waited three years to test R3 and now weīre asked to report bugs ASAP. Whatīs the point of fighting it? |
Graham 3-Feb-2009 [10433] | But what bugs are you reporting? A bug with wine?? |
Kaj 3-Feb-2009 [10434] | A bug in running R3 on Linux |
Henrik 3-Feb-2009 [10435x2] | The point is that previous experience with Wine shows it is not a stable platform to test on. That's why there is a discussion. |
There's no Linux port of R3. | |
Kaj 3-Feb-2009 [10437] | As I said, previous experience shows Windows is not a stable platform. Whatīs the point of any software development at all? |
Henrik 3-Feb-2009 [10438] | Kaj, you're missing the point completely. Do you blame id Software if Wine doesn't run Quake 4 properly? |
Kaj 3-Feb-2009 [10439] | If itīs this difficult to report a bug, then I will refrain from it |
Graham 3-Feb-2009 [10440] | Curecode is the appropriate channel to report bugs |
Henrik 3-Feb-2009 [10441] | Stable platform = API stable = no change in underlying behavior. For Wine, it means it should behave identically to Windows. It seems not to be the case. |
Graham 3-Feb-2009 [10442] | Henrik, what were the earlier wine issues that were fixed? |
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