World: r3wp

Another crash in the demo program: on the "Read HTTP" screen, "Run 
script from net" fails with a "File not found" error.

Maybe I am not in the loop on something, but the times I've tried 
to run the view alpha, it seems to be missing the view components

i.e. "layout is not defined"

you need to 
   load-gui
first.
Then, don't use layout, that' sso R2. Just:
  view [button "press" do [print "pressed"]]

The LAYOUT function is not in R3 anymore :)

layout: func [ b [block!] [ b ] for R3

I wrote some pointers on the Syllable site:

http://development.syllable.org/pages/index.html

Thanks Sunanda! :-)   I had been trying both with and without 'layout 
with the same result.  Looks like I skipped a line in the documentation 
somewhere.  I will go try it now!

Running drop demo http://www.rebol.net/r3blogs/0098.html
 I get an:

 Script error: cannot access locals in path system/view/event-port/locals/handlers

Pekr: about 'demo error on '"Text view", there is also the 'read-string 
function that is missing.

Luis, I would not expect year and half demo to work, it's still alpha 
and some things are changing

...year and half OLD...

Is there  a list of all the widgets available for R3 ?

Graham, I think you can get a list from within the R3 alpha as discussed 
here: http://www.rebol.net/wiki/GUI_Example_-_View_all_styles

That list will be larger when the real skin comes in.

So only a very few styles so far then

yes

In fact the list may be so large, we have to group them. Carl and 
I have discussed a tagging system, that lets you know which styles 
are meant to be used for you (end-users) or which ones are meant 
to be used for skinners to create new styles.

http://rebol.hmkdesign.dk/files/r3/docs/style-list.html
http://rebol.hmkdesign.dk/files/r3/docs/style-tree.html


Not a complete list. Some will disappear again, but it's what I have 
here.

Anyone able to send messages to rebdev? They do not appear in my 
chat and I have duplicates of headings and messages in some places.

ouch, maybe something is broken? will try :-)

I can see messages in rebdev mobile, so it seems to work normally 
for others.

I can now see my test message when submitting nn

nothing here.

delete rebdev related files in your directory and let it resync?

I should, but I'd rather have this debugged. Maybe I should send 
my chat files to Carl.

I'm really surprised by the small number of people reporting bugsabout 
the R3 Alpha. Where is the feedback from all those people pressing 
for a public alpha?

See, that's why I stopped pressing ;-)

I suppose they are now complaining about all the bugs in the Alpha 
:-(

..but not reporting them :-((((

ppl started to live inside new chat system ... back to BBS era, ugly 
black console times ...

r3-alpha as well as r3-gui AltMe worlds are completly dead ...

.... hopefully it is an interim state, a preparation for GUI client. 
New chat system starts to turn being interesting - threaded discussions, 
user ranking, tagging, searches, secure, movement of msgs/headings 
(reorganisation), recently files sharing is being worked on. The 
long term plan is to replace Altme ... with better Altme :-)

Bugs are reported using Curecode.

Peter, we also have to remember that most immediate bugs are probably 
found and that the database has already been up for 18 months, so 
maybe bug reports will go up eventually, but hopefully not. :-) I 
would rather see a way to give positive feedback. That is probably 
a better indicator for the number of active users of R3.

Also, the next step toward attracting more users should be graphical 
demos, as it's the first question I get, when I present R3 to friends. 
Now that you have R3, it's possible for you to write them. :-)

PeterWood: Hi. As a new user I would like to report any problem, 
but for the moment I just saw one bug that as already been reported.

Pekr, about the other worlds being dead: It seems it's going according 
to Carls plan with killing both worlds in favor of Rebdev, so I kinda 
hope it stays that way. I hate jumping back and forth between chat 
systems.

yes, but with MS console crap, it is really a pain to use the chat, 
as you can't increase number of columns. I hope some primitive GUI 
comes soon ...

yes, I hope so too.

kib2, if there were a way to give positive feedback about things 
you really like in R3, would you do it?

Henrik - new RebDev chat (and more) systems gets under your skin. 
I start to like the system, otoh, as usual, when thinking in more 
abstract way, I think that we are creating certain app type, but 
so far I can't see it being base of something like Atlissimo. Altme 
+, maybe, but not something which was supposed to replace Altme + 
IOS. It is interesting, how we don't push the coolest system we had 
(IOS) further. 


With IOS, you had secure communication framework, along with app 
handlers, which allowed you to deploy anything. In IOS, something 
like RebDev (or its particular features), would be just - one of 
many possible apps, complete with separated usergroup areas, if we 
wished for ....

Henrik: for sure!

Pekr, I have only very limited experience with IOS from about 5 years 
ago, but I liked the aspect of miniapps with it. Perhaps this is 
why Carl is so fixated on mini-apps or reblets. I certainly hope 
we'll be able to build a new IOS for R3.

kib2: I thought so. :-) maybe it will be possible through the chat 
system.

As far as I've seen, there's currently no way to run a GUI script 
with R3 alpha. Am I wrong ?

kib2: that fooled me first, but type "load-gui" and you have the 
GUI system available to you.

Henrik: then I can "do %..." ?

yes, or view [button "boo!"]