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[!RebDB] REBOL Pseudo-Relational Database
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Ashley 18-Feb-2010 [226x2] | 1) Couple of good bugs there ... fixing for 3.0.2. 2) Yes. Use all and any to group multiple conditions (e.g. [all [c1 > 2 c2 < 7]] ) |
RebDB 3.0.2 uploaded (same access instructions as before). Documentation updated ... http://www.dobeash.com/RebDB/rebdb3.html This release renames several db-* functions more in line with REBOL naming conventions (e.g. db-insert renamed to db-append as rows are in actual fact appended not inserted). Overall performance improvements (tested against a 1 million row table): - db-append 1.2x faster - db-append/nocheck option 8x faster than db-insert - sort-idx 2x faster - db-select with REBOL conditions 1.2x faster It's going to get seriously interesting once ports are working properly and I can start benchmarking (and optimizing) disk and URL based direct access. | |
Pekr 18-Feb-2010 [228] | what do you mean by ports working properly? |
Andreas 18-Feb-2010 [229] | pekr, i guess ashley refers to http://www.rebol.org/aga-display-posts.r?post=r3wp771x652 |
Pavel 18-Feb-2010 [230x5] | Great news! thanks for upgrade. What about promissed file storage, i.e. is ti possible to operate the DB and index binary directly to/from file? |
ti=it :) | |
Anyway multiple condition is really cool I recommend to everybody attention, selection works as expected now thanks! | |
Really neat is you may create as many index columns as you need/want and then you can use only those ones what makes sence for you selection parameters. I.e. you can use multiple indexes/couners above one dataset and then use multiple selection for BETWEEN statement for example. | |
I've got only one exception. If I need different schema for each row (like in DevChat for example) I have to use Binary dat ecapsulation and sniff in binary in second level. But multiple index columns helps alot in this. | |
Ashley 19-Feb-2010 [235] | Exactly. RebDB3 is optimized for "left to right" equality checks ... which in my experience is the majority access pattern. When you have more than one key you are actually imposing a grouping heirarchy upon the data (e.g. a 3 column key of Country, State/Province/Region and City for example). |
Pavel 23-Feb-2010 [236] | Ashley I think the name Index is little bit missleading the more appropriate would be offsets. Anyway real indexes (ordered lists), are you building them on demand each new selection? Ie it is rebuilded on each selection or there are not used at all and each selection traverses thru data one of three methods? Or maybe make the question easier is it possible to create and save true index on column? |
Ashley 24-Feb-2010 [237] | The index [of offsets] is created by reading a number of columns (min 1) equal to key-cols and inserting both the composite row and the offset into a block which is then sorted by the composite row. For eaxmple: Say we have 2 columns of integers in the index and also assume we have two rows. Reading: 3 2 ... 2 3 .. might create an intermediate block like: #{0034} #{01030102} ; note the #{01} field length indicators} #{0056} #{01020103} which is sorted to produce an index of: #{00560034} Index is updated as rows are inserted or deleted. Some insert and update operations will set a reindex flag which is acted upon the next time a lookup or seek is performed. This index is maintained automatically by RebDB ... you cannot "create" one in the traditional sense of the word. The weakness of this scheme is it assumes that key access is by column 1 OR column 1 & column 2. It doesn't handle the situation where you need key access to column 1 OR column 2 (which in my experience is a fairly uncommon case). |
Pavel 24-Feb-2010 [238x2] | OK thanks for description |
Anyway I'like to ask again about direct file storage of dat/index parts (file based database) is it possible? | |
Ashley 24-Feb-2010 [240] | Yes. It's fairly easy to access the dat file on disk via a port! ... as long as some port! bugs are corrected. Once ports are working correctly I'll add file support. |
Pavel 24-Feb-2010 [241x3] | I'm looking forward to it |
I've tested the length? function over port after inserting the port and it works well now, is there other bugs in fileports? | |
Sorry Update on port writes cannot update on port | |
Sunanda 8-Nov-2010 [244] | RebDB question on REBOLforum: http://www.rebolforum.com/index.cgi?f=printtopic&topicnumber=46 |
GiuseppeC 13-Nov-2010 [245x2] | Maybe it's late and my eyes are not working properly. I am starting to use REBOLDB for REBOL2.0. I have read the quickstart guide and now I know how to create a table but.. wait: How do I open the table at the next start of my script ? I cannot find a DB-OPEN function. |
Also, I need to store DATE and TIME together and select rows greater than a DATE and TIME value. Does RebolDB support this ? | |
GiuseppeC 14-Nov-2010 [247] | Any HELP for my problems ? I am stuck with a simple application. |
Sunanda 14-Nov-2010 [248] | I'm not a rebDB expert....So take my answers as something to be tested: -- I don't think there is an explicit OPEN command. Simply access the table (with SELECT, INSERT, etc) to open it. Similarly, no CLOSE -- use DB-COMMIT to ensure caches are flushed. --rebDB supports REBOL datatypes. Have you tried creating a table row with a datetime in it? Did you have a problem? |
GiuseppeC 16-Nov-2010 [249x2] | Sunanda: you are right. DB il already available without opening it. |
Also the function TO-DATE is able to convert from "15 nov 2010/11:30:15" to "15-nov-2010/11:30:15" without having to parse the string. Something not noticed from REBOL documentation. | |
jack-ort 15-Apr-2011 [251] | (From Ashley on 5-Feb-10:) All new RebDB v3 released for REBOL3. To take it for a spin, try this: import http://idisk.me.com/dobeash/Public/rebdb.r when I try this I get an access error - reason: "not found or not valid" Has RebDB v3 moved to a new location ? Thanks! Cannot wait to try it out. |
OneTom 15-Apr-2011 [252] | Ashley: http://idisk.me.com/dobeash/Public/rebdb.rgives this error message: Account Error: Missing Data Volume |
Ashley 15-Apr-2011 [253] | I've moved from MobileMe to DropBox since then. import http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8269768/rebsm.r help db- test: db-load http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8269768/test.bin help test sql select test I'm in the process of rebuilding my Dobeash site and will be adding this (and a few other goodies) along with documentation when done. No ETA, but it can live on dropbox until then. |
onetom 16-Apr-2011 [254x15] | thx, Ashley |
what is the advised server / client setup? where should be the source, the data directory and the login.sql files for the server and the client? | |
and the spool file... which is suggested to be called session.log but then it will be replayed by the commit * in login.sql if it's in the data directory.. | |
if exists? login: join system/script/parent/path %login.sql [ client/run login ] this would make more sense to me in SQL.r, so any directory with a login.sql could be either a server or client directory | |
it would also make more sense to call it init.sql and provide a client.sql and a server.sql as examples in the distribution | |
if im enabling the spool feature, i just get this error: | |
onetom ~/rebol/db $ rebdb Replaying 9 change(s). ** Script Error: Out of range or past end ** Where: func [/local log][ ... | |
the only way to restart the server is to | |
onetom ~/rebol/db $ rm ../rebdb/replay.bak ../rebdb/session.log | |
if i do a commit *, then the replay.bak won't exist, but the server will still try to execute the session.log, which results in fractional changes: | |
onetom ~/rebol/db $ rebdb Replaying 4.5 change(s). ** Script Error: Out of range or past end | |
if i say set spool session.txt, then it works.. pretty confusing default. and i would expect the file created in the current directory, not where the db.r file is stored | |
and now i get | |
SQL> select * asd asd has an open log file | |
commit asd doesn't help | |
nve 7-Jun-2011 [269] | Is there a protocol version of RedDB ? In order to use it under Cheyenne with database enhancement. |
Ashley 8-Jun-2011 [270] | No, but it wouldn't be that hard to write a protocol wrapper replacement for the SQL function. |
Dockimbel 8-Jun-2011 [271] | Cheyenne is able to run RSP and CGI scripts concurrently on several processes at the same time. AFAIK, RebDB does not do any locking on write access, it would be unsafe to use in the general case with Cheyenne. SQLite would be more resilient, but keep in mind that as it is locking the whole DB on each write access, it is not scalable. |
ddharing 8-Jun-2011 [272] | The new(er) WAL (Write Ahead Logging) transaction mode reduces locking and increases concurrency -- http://sqlite.org/wal.html. |
nve 11-Jun-2011 [273x2] | Seems that the SQL interpreter (SQL.r) do not support multi lines : |
SQL> create table c2 [ ** Syntax Error: Missing ] at end-of-script ** Near: (line 1) create table c2 [ | |
Ashley 15-Jun-2011 [275:last] | Correct, it's just an 'ask loop (hence no semi-colon for command termination). |
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