World: r3wp
[#Boron] Open Source REBOL Clone
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| Henrik 13-Jul-2006 [340] | Trojan horse approach? |
| Kaj 13-Jul-2006 [341] | You want to make Orca do nasty things? ;-) |
| Henrik 13-Jul-2006 [342] | that is sure to get someones atttention |
| Kaj 13-Jul-2006 [343] | Seeing that the Orca Campfire chat is now closed, some people here would like an Orca world and I'm running a number of AltME worlds anyway, I started one. If you would like an account, ask me here, or log in as guest. The world name is Orca and the guest password is guest |
| Anton 13-Jul-2006 [344] | So next I would like to know how to update those afore-mentioned Orca webpages with the new Orca direction. |
| Kaj 13-Jul-2006 [345] | No need to mention your mail address if it's in your account information here |
| Anton 13-Jul-2006 [346x2] | Why, when we have the Orca group here ? |
We should seriously think about a name change. There is confusion with other Orcas. (Everybody seems to like this name.) Eg. http://live.gnome.org/Orca/ | |
| Kaj 13-Jul-2006 [348] | Yes, there are two other Orca languages |
| Anton 13-Jul-2006 [349] | Kaj, also, we can get web published here very easily if/when we want. |
| Pekr 13-Jul-2006 [350] | Rolca :-) |
| Henrik 13-Jul-2006 [351] | lober? |
| Pekr 13-Jul-2006 [352] | yeah, why not .... |
| Anton 13-Jul-2006 [353] | OpenRebol |
| Pekr 13-Jul-2006 [354] | R#, R2 (rebol too) |
| Anton 13-Jul-2006 [355] | vote against R2 |
| Pekr 13-Jul-2006 [356] | oREBOL (aka OpenRebol) is a good one ... |
| Kaj 13-Jul-2006 [357] | People have mentioned that we're the guest of RT here. Although Carl is fairly OK with clone development now, we're still a competitor, so a separate world may be the polite thing to do. At least I'm not sure it would be appreciated to make this group web public |
| Henrik 13-Jul-2006 [358] | OBOL? |
| Pekr 13-Jul-2006 [359] | open rebol is good name oREBOL may suggest object oriented ... |
| Anton 13-Jul-2006 [360] | Yes, short form when we need it, kind of a standard shortened name convention. |
| Henrik 13-Jul-2006 [361] | kaj: I would foresee a problem when/if Orca would become so powerful that it can rival/surpass /Command functionality. |
| Anton 13-Jul-2006 [362] | OpenRebol is unambiguous. |
| Pekr 13-Jul-2006 [363] | decided - OpenREBOL, oREBOL shortened ... :-) |
| Anton 13-Jul-2006 [364] | We are not a competitor at all. |
| Henrik 13-Jul-2006 [365] | remember to tell Jaime :-) |
| Kaj 13-Jul-2006 [366] | You probably know how Carl has thought about that in the past |
| Pekr 13-Jul-2006 [367x2] | as in ice hockey, some playerd so play on so called farms ... we are RT's farm ... if the like something, they can use it, no? :-) |
players do play ... | |
| Kaj 13-Jul-2006 [369] | No, RT can't use it, because Orca is LGPL |
| Pekr 13-Jul-2006 [370] | LGPL? Why that? Why not BSD? Uh .... so much about openess :-) |
| Kaj 13-Jul-2006 [371x2] | And that suggests that we are a competitor |
Ask Karl | |
| Henrik 13-Jul-2006 [373] | yeah :-( but in a way it would be good, because Rebol itself is not GPL friendly. OpenRebol would cover GPL friendly areas. |
| Anton 13-Jul-2006 [374] | But that's only the code base, Kaj. We are growing the language. |
| Kaj 13-Jul-2006 [375] | The simple fact for RT is that they can't use Orca code |
| Anton 13-Jul-2006 [376] | Ok, then, is it possible to change the Orca license to BSD ? So it would be BSDRebol ? |
| Kaj 13-Jul-2006 [377] | That's in Karl's hands |
| Anton 13-Jul-2006 [378] | Karl's abandoning it, so perhaps he wouldn't mind. |
| Kaj 13-Jul-2006 [379] | Just one way to find out |
| Anton 13-Jul-2006 [380] | Let's to it. |
| Kaj 13-Jul-2006 [381] | The other issue is that Karl is continuing with Thune. That's going to be the first place to get code from to integrate with Orca, and that would make it LGPL again |
| Pekr 13-Jul-2006 [382] | what is Thune? |
| Kaj 13-Jul-2006 [383] | Karl's own design for a language, retaining REBOL syntax but not semantics |
| Anton 13-Jul-2006 [384x2] | Karl's other language, still similar rebol to but more divergent (and newer) than orca. |
Kaj, that might be a problem. | |
| Kaj 13-Jul-2006 [386] | If we would change to BSD, yes. In general, that would make it impossible to integrate LGPL code, which is more plentiful than BSD code |
| Anton 13-Jul-2006 [387] | Mmm... what to do ? |
| Kaj 13-Jul-2006 [388] | LGPL is the easier route. Changing to BSD could extend REBOL's reach, however. For example, when integrating an Orca core with a BSD REBOL/Services implementation into some other product |
| Anton 13-Jul-2006 [389] | Is it possible to have both, somehow ....? |
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