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[AJAX] Web Development Using AJAX

Maarten
3-Mar-2006
[51]
Yep. And Microsoft accidentally did that. How sad is that?
Tomc
3-Mar-2006
[52]
something about monkeys with billions banging on keyboards ...
[unknown: 9]
3-Mar-2006
[53x2]
We are activily working on Comet, and the framework.  We should see 
the first hints of the framework on Qtask in about 2 weeks is my 
guess.  The lead of the FRamework just finished the full Contact 
Manager which is live on Qtask now.
Our plan is actually to split off a page and start the UI from scratch 
for the Framework.  it will be fun.  We will simply do everything 
one step at a time, and correctly.
Terry
4-Mar-2006
[55]
now the browser works like it should have in the first place


Now? getElementById has been around since 1998.. IFRAME-based JSRS 
library from 2000, Image/Cookie technique in 2000 and XMLHttpRequest 
since 2002
Volker
4-Mar-2006
[56x2]
And java since 1996 or so?
And juice.
Terry
4-Mar-2006
[58]
Alex Russell has coined a term for a flavour of Ajax that’s been 
getting more attention of late. Comet describes applications where 
the server keeps pushing - or streaming - data to the client, instead 
of having the browser keep polling the server for fresh content. 
Alex identifies several buzzworthy examples:
http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/?p=545
Will
8-Mar-2006
[59]
Which one is better?

http://edevil.wordpress.com/2005/11/14/javascript-libraries-roundup/
Will
9-Mar-2006
[60]
What about this one? wouldn't be nice to have in rebol?
PAJAX - Remote (a)synchronous PHP objects in JavaScript
http://www.auberger.com/pajax/
Maarten
11-Mar-2006
[61]
Websites are just babysitting databases, so tehy invented RubyOnRails 
to make that easier

. I saw this on the web somewhere, and it is true (both in terms 
of RoR qualities and limitations)
Terry
11-Mar-2006
[62]
Everything is data.
Will
12-Mar-2006
[63]
Slides on Comet http://alex.dojotoolkit.org/wp-content/LowLatencyData.html
Allen
14-Mar-2006
[64]
I don't see anything on the that page, just a space where a flash 
movie is supposed to be.
Allen
27-Mar-2006
[65]
http://www.ajaxwrite.com/
Oldes
28-Mar-2006
[66]
it's running only in Firefox!
Graham
28-Mar-2006
[67]
This is a pretty bizarre program .. I tried loading a word doc from 
my docs, and it loads a completely different one.
Rebolek
28-Mar-2006
[68x2]
It's not AJAX based but XUL based and XUL is Mozilla-specific.
I don't understand why they choose that name
Maxim
28-Mar-2006
[70]
man, cant' people stop inventing synonims.
Graham
28-Mar-2006
[71x3]
And it always loads the same document regardless of what I choose.
not ready for prime time yet.
Lotus had a suite of their applications that loaded across the network 
.. looked neat when I went to the demo 10 years ago.
Maxim
28-Mar-2006
[74]
ajax :  the new way of doing everything without changing anything 
in the way we are doing things.
Oldes
28-Mar-2006
[75]
I still don't understand why so many people are so excited with Ajax, 
from my point of view it's just the getXMLHttpRequestObj() function, 
which started to work after many years in more than one browser, 
and which enable us to load something without need to reload all 
the page.
Rebolek
28-Mar-2006
[76x2]
yes
isn't it amazing?
Maxim
28-Mar-2006
[78]
hahaha
Oldes
28-Mar-2006
[79x2]
yes, it's nice, I use it for example here http://www.literarky.cz/povidkaroku2006.php?p=clanek&id=1451
but do I compare Ajax with Rebol?
Maxim
28-Mar-2006
[81]
it used to be that when you coudn't see you where blind..  in this 
politically correct world you are now visually impaired.

I guess that using javascript is also the same, now you say you are 
an ajax programmer.   ;-)
[unknown: 10]
8-Apr-2006
[82x2]
microsofts ajax with .net (ofcourse..) some info -> http://weblog.infoworld.com/udell/2006/03/31.html
http://weblog.infoworld.com/udell/screenroom/atlas_flv.html
Oldes
11-Apr-2006
[84]
Must say, that I have to leave using AJAX in my sites, where I was 
using it in public pools, because it looks, that for some people 
it's impossible to vote. There is still too many people using old 
crap (W98 with ancient IE browsers) .
Pekr
11-Apr-2006
[85x3]
I just recently held discussion with my old amiga friend, and I reminded 
him of Rebol 3.0. He seemed really confident, that ajax ends most 
of private, non open sourced technologies ....  and that View with 
ajax has no sense anymore :-)
He suggested me to watch - http://www.techcrunch.comand http://www.netvibes.com
sites for e.g.
I just would like to ask, if there is any perspective for rebol - 
e.g. that we could have core in browser (not view) and do ajax too? 
:-)
Henrik
11-Apr-2006
[88]
I'm pretty sure that /core would run circles around AJAX, during 
the tests I made a couple of years ago
Pekr
11-Apr-2006
[89]
but - what does it mean - core in browser? it is plug-in too, no?
Henrik
11-Apr-2006
[90x2]
it would be a plugin, but I'm not sure how much sense it makes other 
than a smaller DLL file
you need to embed it in a webpage somehow
Oldes
11-Apr-2006
[92]
Interesting can be, if you run serven in clients page:-))
Pekr
11-Apr-2006
[93]
server? yes, possible with rebol.
Oldes
11-Apr-2006
[94]
the netvibes site is nice, but the problem is still the same, - you 
have to do it in old way as well, if you want to make pages for more 
people then net-freaks
Pekr
11-Apr-2006
[95]
but still, dom interface is weak, no? otoh we don't need full rebol 
version of dom, js has one, so via do-browser we can call even dom, 
right? :-)
Henrik
11-Apr-2006
[96]
server-in-a-browser would be a piece of cake with rebol. just consider 
that you can output HTML code to the browser via DOM as well as View 
graphics
Pekr
11-Apr-2006
[97]
what browsers are ajax compatible? IE since 5.5? let's forget old 
browsers then ... ppl should upgrade, if they want something new 
...
Oldes
11-Apr-2006
[98]
via do-browser you can do everything - it just evaluates JS code
Pekr
11-Apr-2006
[99]
hmm, then we need that plug-in, gee :-)
Henrik
11-Apr-2006
[100]
yes, the plugin is going to become very important